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Old 07-15-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: southern california
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But Trump's presidential campaign was built on bigotry and hate or did you miss that part.
You have gone from saying mr trumps America makes mistakes to saying America is a mistake
As to your take on American justice let’s look in the mirror
Any group that advocates assassination of president and police is not a political party -it’s a lynch mob -and a mob is nothing but mindless hatred with no sense of justice whatsoever
Only the desire to harm others

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Old 07-15-2018, 07:57 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Trump disrespects Queen Elizabeth. He did not bow, he walked in front of her. A diplomatic faux pas.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...een/784042002/

... but salutes a North Korean general

https://twitter.com/TAPAlerts/status...32522915717122

Trump clearly has disdain for liberal Western democracies (snubbing or insulting UK, Germany and Canada) and prefers to hang around with dictators (Putin, Kim Jong Un).

When the free world sees Trump they
Oh, please. Get real.

When a general salutes, it is proper to return the salute. Did President Trump salute the general first? No, he didn't. Watch the video again!

I can tell you've never been in the military.

By the way, there is no reason to bow to the queen. That isn't protocol. And he didn't walk in front of her (although he was having a hard time walking at her slow pace ...she is short, and old). In case you didn't notice, the USA Today story was sarcasm, directed at the anti-Trumpers.

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Old 07-15-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I knew the Leftist anti-Trump extremists would be carefully watching for anything they could find to criticize. They will go to great lengths, even criticizing if there was a moment that President Trump didn't hold Melania's hand.
 
Old 07-15-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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This attitude is exactly the problem. The Trump presidency has ushered in an era of wholesale devaluation of expertise, and we will ALL, from the person who worked diligently to earn a CDL to the diplomat with thirty years of hard-won experience and knowledge, rue the consequences of that. We are living in a world where this commercial is no longer understood as a joke by a significant and frightfully influential portion of the U.S. population.

Are these protocols and experts addressing the main concerns of the US?

I have no problem with citizens having higher expectations of foreign leaders when they come to their country. I also have no problem with leaders halting negotiations because our leader doesn't follow protocol. But do we honestly think they care about any of that? Ultimately, what they care about is what they are getting when Trump leaves.
 
Old 07-15-2018, 08:43 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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I knew the Leftist anti-Trump extremists would be carefully watching for anything they could find to criticize. They will go to great lengths, even criticizing if there was a moment that President Trump didn't hold Melania's hand.
Trump wasn't the biggest political embarrastment of the last week, indeed that honour went to President of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker (aka Drunker)

 
Old 07-15-2018, 08:45 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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And if he had bowed before the Queen, you and others would have been attacking him for bowing.

American Presidents are heads of state and are considered to be equal the Queen. They are not required to bow to royalty and it would be especially symbolic if a President bowed to the British monarch, 1776 and all that. He/she would be attacked all over the media if they bowed to the Queen.

People are just looking for any excuse to attack Trump. It is getting increasingly lame.
No, they actually think he should have bowed ...because that's what Obama did.
 
Old 07-15-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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Trump wasn't the biggest political embarrastment of the last week, indeed that honour went to Jean-Claude Juncker.

Nobody looked embarrassed handling that situation and helping him out.
 
Old 07-15-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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Incorrect. Trump is not required to make a small bow to the Queen, it is optional. Walking in front of the Queen is a violation of diplomacy 101 and is rude to the hosts. When you are at your friend's house do you put your feet up on the furniture?

He's got a pattern of snubbing, lying to, and insulting the leaders of western democracies.
Particularly women.
 
Old 07-15-2018, 08:58 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Nobody looked embarrassed handling that situation and helping him out.
He has been the subject of numerous articles and criticism over his drinking over the years.

Drunker is just an embarrasment.

Ruth Davidson hits out at EU chief Jean-Claude Juncker's drinking - Daily Record

Is Jean-Claude Juncker an alcoholic? EU President who has repeatedly denied allegations of drinking problem - The Sun

'A drunk who has cognac for breakfast': EU presidency favourite faces explosive claims as Cameron prepares for showdown with Merkel to stop him taking top job | Daily Mail Online

Jean-Claude Juncker waves off speculation over drinking - while 'drinking four glasses of champagne' - The Independent

Jean-Claude Junker renowned for drinking, smoking and sarcasm - The Times
 
Old 07-15-2018, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump is ignorant regarding any type of protocol. He does no homework and does not listen to his staff, so has no idea how respectful people act toward others, even world leaders. Remember his wife had to instruct him to put his hand over his heart for the anthem?

So, basically, his actions or reactions are a reflection of his own self-absorbed ego. Emotionally, he's impressed by military uniforms because they project strength he does not have, and he dismisses women as unimportant (unless they are 10s or Ivanka).

So he had no problem keeping the queen waiting for 15 minutes and then turning his back or walking in front of her, or being rude to Theresa May. You can bet he'll bow down for Putin and rather than keep him waiting as he has done to our allies, he'll be early for the meeting.
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