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Old 07-15-2018, 07:49 PM
 
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All the "We do it too so it's no big deal" is ridiculous nonsense.

I don't care if the US meddles in every election around the entire planet, I don't want Putin picking the POTUS.
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:57 PM
 
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It is actually you and your side that is understating the problem. What is happening here, since you all have somehow failed to notice, is that we are currently losing a world-wide cyber WAR.

That we are losing is a pretty wild assumption,you never going to hear about 99.9% of what occurs. As far as this topic goes it was so blatant I wouldn't be surprised in the Russians expected or even wanted it to be exposed. Russia certainly had interests in helping Trump win, I guess what I should say is help Hillary lose because I'm fairly confident they would of done the same thing regardless of who her opponent was.


By allowing it to be exposed you are creating controversy and raise questions about the integrity of the voting sytem. The DNC hack is not something to be ignored but it's small potatoes compared to them probing servers/networks that can have a substantial effect on voting/votes.
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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All the "We do it too so it's no big deal" is ridiculous nonsense.

I don't care if the US meddles in every election around the entire planet, I don't want Putin picking the POTUS.





Except there is not a single bit of proof any votes were changed because of Russia


Easy to blame the
Though instead of taking responsibility for running a vile hag As your candidate in 2016



And again it shows clearly the Dems don’t give two craps about Russia or countries interfering. They are only mad because Hillary lost
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:01 PM
 
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She was arrested in Portugal...
So? They have an extradition agreement with Italy.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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So are you admitting Russia meddled in the 2016 election?
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Yes and probably every election since JFK was elected.

How may elections have we mettle in, hundreds? It's what countries do.

You think China mettle's in our elections also? I do.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:11 PM
 
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All the "We do it too so it's no big deal" is ridiculous nonsense.

I don't care if the US meddles in every election around the entire planet, I don't want Putin picking the POTUS.
How many times are you going to knowingly and intentionally repeat that lie. As you know very well, everyone here regards this as a problem. But indicting foreign intelligence officers operating from their own country is an incredibly weak and ineffective way to try to solve this problem.

It does make for pretty good political theater, though.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:12 PM
 
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As I pointed out in another post, US Supreme Court ruled that you cannot have a trial of a defendant who is absent at the beginning of trial.
You conviently forgot to quote the paragraphs following your excerpt on Wikipedia, which listed a multitude of exceptions.


It is not an absolute, stop passing it off as such.

AND, a conviction isn’t necessary for extradition, so your point is moot. Someone can be extradited and subsequently charged.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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How many times are you going to knowingly and intentionally repeat that lie. As you know very well, everyone here regards this as a problem. But indicting foreign intelligence officers operating from their own country is an incredibly weak and ineffective way to try to solve this problem.

It does make for pretty good political theater, though.
And a bigger lie is even insinuating Putin had anything to do with Trump being elected.

That was entirely a result of Obama / Clinton. Dem's started their losing in 2010 and Trump was the result.

He kicked Hillary to the curb just like Obama did in 2008.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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How many times are you going to knowingly and intentionally repeat that lie. As you know very well, everyone here regards this as a problem. But indicting foreign intelligence officers operating from their own country is an incredibly weak and ineffective way to try to solve this problem.

It does make for pretty good political theater, though.

I'm not so sure Mueller or the DOJ have much of a choice. Something like this may have been quashed in the past and handled by the Administration through diplomatic and back channels but that would be bigger scandal than the meddling considering the political atmosphere.
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Old 07-15-2018, 08:24 PM
 
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I would’ve extradited American criminals who intervened in foreign elections to those nations along time ago. I’d also include any American that participated in an overthrow of a foreign government, or participated in the planning of an invasion of a sovereign country.

Hell, we can go retroactive right now. Any of our agents that are still alive should be sent packing. Let’s start with anyone that’s still alive that may have participated in the ‘54 overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran. I’d send their asses to Iran right now.
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