Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Would Trump lashing out at Putin have helped solve our problems with Russia, or would it have made t
It would have helped resolve them 32 37.21%
It would have made them worse 54 62.79%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:19 PM
 
14,489 posts, read 6,096,970 times
Reputation: 6842

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
Trumpies don't want to say "Russia tricked us with lies". Trumpies don't want to admit Russia favored Trump and so hacked into election databases in 2016. They don't even want to admit that there is a serious ongoing challenge to our nation's sovereignty going on here.

They are too proud to acknowledge these things because it makes Trump's election seem less legitimate, and it makes themselves look like they've been had.

That's what Trump thinks. Trump thinks his own election lacks legitimacy, and therefore he can not admit that any of these threats were or are real. He has to paper over the cracks or the house loses value.

This is why, for example, Trump has this manic obsession with crowd sizes and ratings, and forces his staff to lie to us about them.

Trump's misplaced pride will not allow him to do the right thing now. He is like a hit and run driver, speeding away from the scene of tragedy hoping to avoid getting caught.



What lies?



Do you have evidence Russia changed any votes?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:20 PM
 
13,954 posts, read 5,623,969 times
Reputation: 8613
Define "better?"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
5,092 posts, read 14,831,271 times
Reputation: 10865
They have beautiful women in Russia.

But you have to rich to buy one.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:21 PM
 
14,489 posts, read 6,096,970 times
Reputation: 6842
Quote:
Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian View Post
Russia didn't even interfere, unless you say:
  • that when a newspaper editorial board officially endorses a candidate, they are interfering.
  • that when a private citizen posts for one candidate and/or against another on their own social media accounts, they are interfering.
  • that when Hollywood makes a movie/TV show ahead of an election that clearly favors one candidate and/or opposes another, they are interfering.
  • that when a citizen posts a sign for/against a candidate in their yard or on their car or whatever, they are interfering.
  • that when European newspapers and magazines write for/against candidates in our elections, they are interfering.
Russia did not vote in the election. They didn't hack voting machines, they didn't change votes or tamper with the actual voting process. They posted targeted marketing messages on social media, same as both campaigns, both national committees, and virtually every lobbying group or PAC in existence.

It is pure liberal hubris, ignorance and denial that has decided the only way anyone would vote for Trump is if they were somehow tricked. That's not the case. Russia did indeed have folks goofing with social media during our election season, but again, they were one of thousands of players doing the same thing. In the end, the US people came out and voted, Trump got the most electoral votes, and the US House of Representatives certified the election results.

The losers of an election never want to accept that the person they put all their hopes and dreams into could possibly lose, therefore if they do, the other side cheated somehow. Every 4 years, without fail, this is the narrative from the losing side. And every 4 years, the losing side always claims it never happened like this before, the winner is a Manchurian Candidate, democracy is lost, world coming to an end, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, etc

Hillary Clinton lost, Donald Trump won. That's a fact, it won't change, and Trump isn't going anywhere.

So all this Russian bad guy stuff is simply this election cycle's losers seeking someone to be the scapegoat for a reality they simply cannot and will not accept. Hillary Clinton was an awful candidate and she got beat by a better candidate, fair and square. Accept it.



Yep


I have no problem saying Russia interfered. That we should improve cyber security


But when you start saying the 2016 election wasn’t legitimate and the people that didn’t vote for Hillary were tricked. You’re just making excuses for your loss
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
39,228 posts, read 27,597,823 times
Reputation: 16066
Nope
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:22 PM
 
12,772 posts, read 7,976,365 times
Reputation: 4332
Quote:
Originally Posted by crone View Post
How many years did the Republicans go after Whitewater and came up with a blow job?

How many people have already pled guilty in the Mueller investigation? And he hasn't even gotten started good yet.

Before the Trump fans get as cocky as Billary was please remember

46.9 % of eligible voters did not vote

25.6% Clinton

25.5% Trump

1.7% Johnson

Best not **** off those who were sleeping or didn't care
Hey, look at that, I AM part of the 1%, just a different 1% than I thought.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Midwest
38,496 posts, read 25,811,747 times
Reputation: 10789
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Huntsman and Pompeo reportedly looking "stricken" while watching this outrageous nonsense.

Of course they do. In addition to the insanity going on there, they both know their careers are kaput after Trump is no longer president.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: southern california
61,288 posts, read 87,413,299 times
Reputation: 55562
Russia justice system is not broken
You won’t be around very long if you attack police and advocate assassination of president and police
Drug dealers have a short life expectancy and
stopping freeway traffic bek you feel you are not getting enough respect
could get you hurt
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:25 PM
 
222 posts, read 185,674 times
Reputation: 167
Quote:
Originally Posted by gwynedd1 View Post
What's the plan?
Quote:
Originally Posted by VLWH View Post
Maybe you should ask why Obama did absolutely nothing when he found out.

Obama isn't President anymore. He is an irrelevant person. TRUMP is our president. we should ask him.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-16-2018, 01:26 PM
 
5,802 posts, read 9,894,970 times
Reputation: 3051
Quote:
Originally Posted by gwynedd1 View Post
Our bankers look at themselves in the mirror often enough I would suppose. So they should very well know what a con artist looks like
And that mere fact which you just stated, don't you think that should have been a sign to Americans... Something not right about this guy.

I guess:

- American Banks not loaning money to
- Files Bankruptcy 4 times
- 1000x of court cases of stiffing workers
- Massive class action lawsuit for running a snake oil University scheme
- Massive money laundering apparatus with Trump properties, Russians and DuetcheBank

Yea, no one could ever put together that Trump was Criminal Con-Artist, why you'd have to be Columbo to put this together.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:06 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top