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Old 07-18-2018, 06:09 AM
 
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I found it interesting that at the Summit Press Conference the two leaders did not explicitly note any agreements on any subject that had been reached.



Yet, now, we have from Russia:



"The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is ready for practical implementation of the agreements reached between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump in the sphere of international security achieved at the Helsinki summit," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, a Russian military spokesman, said in a statement Tuesday.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/17/polit...nts/index.html


What does this mean? To this hour, the White House has not responded.

 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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I found it interesting that at the Summit Press Conference the two leaders did not explicitly note any agreements on any subject that had been reached.



Yet, now, we have from Russia:



"The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is ready for practical implementation of the agreements reached between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump in the sphere of international security achieved at the Helsinki summit," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, a Russian military spokesman, said in a statement Tuesday.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/17/polit...nts/index.html


What does this mean? To this hour, the White House has not responded.
From the sound of the talk about Russia's humanitarian efforts in Syria, , I suspect at least one of the agreements involves handing Syria over to Russia.

Members of Congress are calling for bringing the translator in for an interview to see exactly what Trump agreed to.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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THE WORLD SAW IT !!!!
"Treason in its form of being what is Treason"; the commentary of Trump at the press conference outlined exactly what was said in the private meeting with Trump and Putin. When Trump said America was "foolish". that tells us, that he did all he could to make submission to Putin. (People can't forget that Cohen, was there in Russian trying to set up Real Estate Deal, even during the campaigning process, and that tells us that Trump will do "anything" to hope Putin let's his son and daughter go there and build something. But that's only part of it, between the "dark money washing Russians have been engaged in for a very long time, and that money has been funneled thought the Money Laundering Game Trump has long been entrenched within; then there's the Dossier !!!!.... but as with most things "It's the Money" !!! It was no accident so many Russian were involved with the Trump campaign and many of his cabinet picks).

The press conference, demonstrated that Trump is Owned by Putin, and sold out the Entire United States and its Allies on Stage and unto NATO before the entire world, and the world picked up on all of it. the denigration of Germany, was so overtly telling, as he wanted to emphasis that Putin is all power, at the expense of denigrating Germany, before the whole of the world. Just another step in "doing Putin's work to alienate our allies. Then to call the EU a foe... He should have been immediately dismissed by a special session called by Congress to initiate immediate Impeachment Proceeding, not just against Trump, but Pence as well. That's what Democracy Loving Republican Congressmen/Congresswomen would have called for. The world's media is not a fool and they are not mistaken!!! They saw the week long Treasonous Conduct and Acts... and they too reported it in bold print, backed by solid video.

The attempt to hoodwink the public with his walk back of the word "would"... is seen for the insanity of thinking the American public and the Allied Nations is stupid.
We are not the group he pandered to and told them that he thought them to be stupid enough to follow him even if he shot someone on 5th Ave. Instead of just shooting a person on 5th Ave, he went to the extreme and "Shot America and America's Allies on a World Stage".
As to his base, its by now evident, No one would expect people who love "bully and belligerence" and think bully and belligerence to be strength would every think beyond such insidiousness. ((Every parent in America and the world, knows "bully and belligerence" is the most abhorred thing they'd would never want to see in their children, let along in a sitting President.))
We know for certain, the display of such 'subversive and treasonous" acts is in essence, the sign of a weak compromised individual, who has betrayed a nation.

Therefore, the sadness is: We are unfortunate enough to have a mass of people whom we have found, can't be trusted to respect the democracy, detest equality, and vote and stand against their own best interest. They are a mass, whom we can be assured they would choose not to understand such blatant truths, which exposed the most vile of subversive and treasonous conduct and they make themselves co-conspirators against America and American Democracy. All in a lust to pander to the wealth, with a vain hope the wealthy will give them something, and help them ride on the fictional madness of white privilege, which is the fiction, that has kept them not only devastated economically, but made them become fools of vanity.
Expecting to get something they have not prepared themselves to have within a 21st Century World; such as developed skills and common knowledge that we as a world has moved on from the Industrial ages. We live now, and the future into a Technology World, where Information and Technological Mechanized Computer Generation is what the future has begun, automation and many other new fields are building and expanding every day, and this Trumpian group is not and has not made effort or had concern to prepare themselves for. Al they think is what their ancestry thought, which is, "the wealthy will give themselves something". It's the mentality of foolishness!!!
Many of those people are still talking about the manual labor their grandfather and great-grandfathers did, and expecting it to return. Such foolishness is the intoxicant of a segment of the people.

They can't even see the reality of his attacks on every division and department and agency of the United States Government, and the damages he has done to every aspect of our governance.

They are hung up and happy about a few $100 dollars, when he gave the wealthy and "Himself" 1.X Trillion in Tax Avoidance, with absolutely no mandate to "invest that money in America".

Trump is in awe of Putin's wealthy and his Authortarian System... any man who tells the people, he's such a genius is one who is telling the people, he wants to be and see's himself as a "Authoritarian Ruler".

He pandered to the anguish that white right white people had of panic when they saw a black man as president, and realized that "equality movenment" would wipe out "white privilege" and the wealthy, DETEST "equality', because want to retain 'economic dominance" over our governance and over the people, while they "KEEP WAGES LOW" and their profits high.

Things are not as complicated as one might think. "Money and the Obsession of and for it makes Madness", has been the premise of truth for centuries. There is a reason the word "Fool" exist, and certainly a reason why its used in the Bible, and what it is described to be within the Bible's usage of the world. Therefore, one should not be alarmed at the usage of the world to describe what is a Fool.

See the basic premise of mankind, especially within a Democracy, is "Equality of Human Being, as Person and Individual". Anything that seeks to diminish what that means, is "A Fool"....
There is a reason the words "haughtiness", and "Vanity" exist, because we see it in real life, and its exemplified in Trump and the Administrative Picks he made. We see it in the vanity about himself, to sell out the whole of America for the praises he seeks from Putin and the access he seeks to secure means to attack and get more Russian money.

Republican Congress FORGOT that thier job is not to play a party game, it is to stand up for America and American people and support and promote policy that not only supports and provides unto and for the American people, but to stand for truth, justice and fairness to promote Equality for All. That does not exist in the minds of those who aspire to Confederate Ideals, because the Confederacy had absolutely no concern for any aspect of equality, not even among the ranks of themselves as slave owners. It was about "dominance" and "dictation" of the and by the wealthiest.

We know what we see. America saw Treason from the Sitting President, against everything that Democracy stands for.

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Old 07-18-2018, 06:46 AM
 
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It’ll be interesting to see if Trump lightens up on Russia after this. After all, he has treated them harsher than any potus in recent times.

You're kidding, right?
 
Old 07-18-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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It’ll be interesting to see if Trump lightens up on Russia after this. After all, he has treated them harsher than any potus in recent times.
{{{{belly laugh}}}}
 
Old 07-18-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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I can continue but I think you get the idea but to argue with ones so full of hate is futile.
The "Resistance" is futile. They don't have the 'nads for revolution, they don't have the votes to amend the Constitution, all they have is the Twitterverse and comrades in the MSM. Chicken Littles X10^6, is there an emoji for that? LOL
 
Old 07-18-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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You're kidding, right?
I took it for sarcasm.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 08:18 AM
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You're kidding, right?

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{{{{belly laugh}}}}
He has continued the sanctions against them, implemented more sanctions, sold lethal arms to Ukraine, took action in Syria etc. I don’t condone these acts but lefty won’t acknowlege them. Strange
 
Old 07-18-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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This says it all.
Our government should stand and make the charge and apply the penalty expediently!!!!

From Trump and Republican Congress and Republican Voters backing him, We see and we seen a continual string of:
SUBVERSIVE ACTS, MORAL ASSAULT UPON NATION AND PEOPLE, AND HIGH CRIMES AND EGREGIOUS TREASONOUS ACTS AND ACTIVITIES AGAINST EVERYTHING THIS DEMOCRACY WAS DESIGNED TO BE, FROM THE WORDS OF ITS OWN DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, AND ITS OWN UNITED STATE CONSTITUTION.

We've seen it from the damages done to agencies and departments it took us 100's of years to create and build up, we've seen it against EVERY Department and Division of our Governance System, We've seen it erode and damage our Allied Relations, we've seen it decimate our Diplomatic Corp of Diplomats, we seen the MASS fleecing of our Tax system, when we carry $20 Trillion in debt, and wants to now, cut programs that service the American Public, and out Veterans, and ignore the need for that same 1.x trillion to be spent on our Infrastructure... and we've seen it in the president THREATENING our Congressional Members, both Republican and Democrats. Attack even our Cultural Sports Organizations, to singling out Individual and Attacking them, and among the most Egregious is the Constant Attack on our Freedom of Press.

No Foreign Nation could have done such damage to America even over decades, and this man has done it less than 2 yrs. THIS IS AN ATROCITY !!!!
We now face seeing him pervert the Supreme Court with the assistance of SCOTUS Justice Kennedy, who's son, has been one funneling the 'Dark Money from Russian Money Washing, "directly to funding Trump"...

There has been no crimes so great upon this nation, over its 100's of years of existence. Even the Civil War, was conducted in ways where we had no reserve about identifying the Enemy of the United States of America.

This madness shall not stand.... because the American People is what must stand... Call a SUBVERSIVES, AND TREASONOUS CRIMINAL OUT, AND CALL HIM WHAT HE IS.

There is nothing he has not damaged in America, from strong arming gangster style, the extortion of tax concession upon and against our cities in the midst of their own struggles, to Fleecing our Internal Revenue, and then Creating the most vile tax scam ever in America's history with the tax give away to himself and the wealthy. These are just some of the matter that is subversive and treasonous..
To discuss the massive volumes of Russians involved is a list too long to list in a forum blog script, then there was the treasonous money grubbing Flynn, who not only disgraces the status of what is suppose to be the Military Rank of General, he went further and showed Subversive Treasonous disregard for our office and role position of National Security Advisor.

We cannot forget the madness of Bannon, who Trump tried to interject into the National Security Council and usurp the role of Prebius as well, by trying to give them dual equal power, for a position that has always been a single authority person position. Then there is the vile of his daughter and her husband, which should have been immediate point of indication of the vile madness of a fool, occupying our Presidential Office. Yet, Trump went on to install a "White Nationalist Bigot and Racist Madman, in Bannon", which insults everything about American Democracy, Human and Civil Rights in this nation.

We have been for 100's of years to never allow a Foreign Nation to Cause us such damage, and now here we are with the damage being done from WITHIN our Own Office of the Presidency and his Cabinet.

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Its worst than we've openly stated!!!!! WE MUST ACT!!! and WE MUST STAND AGAINST THIS VILE of Trump and Republican weaklings in congress, and the madness of those who support such attacks upon and against America.

Its our time as ALL American People to stand in full acknowledgment and stand fully against "The Confederacy Idealist, whom are Damaging America from INSIDE our own Governance system, and doing it along with the invite or Russian Adversarial system to aid in the process. SUBVERSIVE ACTS THAT HAVE ESCALATED CONTINUALLY INTO HIGH CRIMES AND SEVERE ACTS OF TREASON.....
There must be no wavering in understanding this, and there shall be nothing that is capable by any means to bring even a remote doubt into the minds and the knowing and understanding of the American People.

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Old 07-18-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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He has continued the sanctions against them, implemented more sanctions, sold lethal arms to Ukraine, took action in Syria etc. I don’t condone these acts but lefty won’t acknowlege them. Strange
Maybe one should think more about America than being lost in this fiction of Lefty and Righty, and think about the DIGNITY AND RESPECT OF AMERICA, and all that it has taken us over 100's of years to create and build.

it just might be time to truly awaken....
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