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Old 07-20-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22 View Post
Trump should never be allowed alone in a room with any foreign leader - ever. He needs a watchdog (three) - Secretaries of State and Defense and head of DNI. He is financially beholden to Russia, his allegiance lies there.

Whatever his account of his conversations with Putin - when he finally gets around to 'briefing' his cabinet (if he does) - we can assume it will be a lie. The man is incapable of truth.
Senator Lyndsey Graham said that Trump would never be in private meeting with foreign leader again--

Yeah---how is he going to stop him??? Shake his finger at him??? Beat him at golf???

 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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Setting aside collusion and Mueller’s investigation, there seems to be a blatantly obvious point relating to Trump and Russia.

Since American banks and many European banks won't work with Trump due to all his bankruptcies, Trump business has relied heavily/exclusively on Russian banks. Putin essentially controls those Russian banks. Any steps taken against Putin could/would directly affect Trump’s business dealings.

Seems likely we’re (at the least) seeing a real time affect of those conflicts of interest.

So where do those emolument cases stand, and why isn’t a bigger deal being made of them?
Not always Russian "banks"
Oligarchs--uber wealthy Russians--have bought Trump properties and made investments in his deals--
They were laundering money and Trump was the washing machine...
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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Who knew a private citizen could do all that?
When you have a private "back channel" to the Kremlin who knows how powerful you could be???
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I'm curious as to what went on in the 2 hour private meeting between trump and Putin,why did it have to be private?
Apparently some of the time was spent discussing the Ukraine and Putin’s proposal for a referendum there:

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The Russian president spoke about the proposal at a behind-closed-doors meeting with ambassadors and diplomats at the foreign ministry in Moscow on Thursday, Bloomberg reported, citing two people who attended the meeting. Putin reportedly said he had agreed not to discuss the proposal publicly while Trump was considering it.

The proposal seeks to resolve the four-year-old conflict in Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions that followed Russia’s annexation of Crimea.
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Bloomberg said Putin was proposing a ballot of residents on the status of the two territories, carried out under international auspices.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...elsinki-report
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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After Putin has flooded the area with "residents"
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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After Putin has flooded the area with "residents"
Most likely.

Got to wonder why they are fighting so hard if they all want to join up with Russia.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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Apparently some of the time was spent discussing the Ukraine and Putin’s proposal for a referendum there:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...elsinki-report
UPDATE

White House: Trump doesn't support Putin's Ukraine referendum idea: https://www.axios.com/trump-rejects-...5ef6aa65e.html

and

“The Pentagon has announced it will provide $200 million in security assistance to Ukraine. The funds had already been approved, as CNN notes, pending "a series of defense reforms" from Ukraine's government.”

https://www.axios.com/us-military-ai...a00ab9a68.html
 
Old 07-20-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NeutralParty View Post
Setting aside collusion and Mueller’s investigation, there seems to be a blatantly obvious point relating to Trump and Russia.

Since American banks and many European banks won't work with Trump due to all his bankruptcies, Trump business has relied heavily/exclusively on Russian banks. Putin essentially controls those Russian banks. Any steps taken against Putin could/would directly affect Trump’s business dealings.

Seems likely we’re (at the least) seeing a real time affect of those conflicts of interest.

So where do those emolument cases stand, and why isn’t a bigger deal being made of them?
Could the reason be because there is no proof of even $1 in loans taken by Trump from a Russian bank?
 
Old 07-20-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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UPDATE

White House: Trump doesn't support Putin's Ukraine referendum idea: https://www.axios.com/trump-rejects-...5ef6aa65e.html

and

“The Pentagon has announced it will provide $200 million in security assistance to Ukraine. The funds had already been approved, as CNN notes, pending "a series of defense reforms" from Ukraine's government.”

https://www.axios.com/us-military-ai...a00ab9a68.html
All righty then.
 
Old 07-20-2018, 04:13 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Could the reason be because there is no proof of even $1 in loans taken by Trump from a Russian bank?
Tons of proof, straight from Tiny Hands JR:

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Eric Trump in 2014: 'We have all the funding we need out of Russia'
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A Reuters investigation in March also found that more than 60 people with Russian ties had invested almost $100 million in seven Trump properties in southern Florida.
Eric Trump said Trump golf courses got $100 million in funding from Russia - Business Insider
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