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And for what purpose?
None of you have made any substantial claim nor provided proof in how Russia benefits. I've dismantled that in pages prior. Not one of you has presented a logical, or factual argument nor evidence to support Russia benefits. Just keep parroting the same thing over, and over, and over again. Russia benefits. Russia benefits.
If Russia were to really benefit they'd be pushing anti-gun rhetoric. Not promoting gun ownership. Especially if his "land grab" and "infiltration" went to America, he wouldn't want armed opposition via the civilian populace
If Russia benefits they wouldn't have sanctions placed against them that Trump himself can not reverse.
It would not be of Russia's benefit to support the firearm lobby. Not at all. Especially if the purpose is to seize the country. He'd be facing quite the armed insurrection amongst the populace and military. So there's that.
If Russia were to gain/benefit, Trump wouldn't have signed an arms deal and the Ukraine would be Russias latest and greatest addition.
Infiltrate American politics and policy makers via the NRA. Yet... nothing this administration has done has been conducive nor helpful or beneficial for Russia in any capacity. Zip. Zero. Zilch.
No, it was addressed. You just ignored it altogether.
Cool - so the NRA is now in cahoots with Russian agents. And we have a President who is far up Putin's ass. Before we know it, conservatives are going to be waving around the hammer and sickle flag..
Have you seen any of the reports from the last couple of days?
She was everywhere. In the Oval office, travelling with congressmen...
She managed to insert herself into all sorts of business.
Just goes to show, a honey trap is as effective as it ever was.
You guys want compromise. Compromise has 2 meanings.
This for that/mutual agreement.
Eroding or damaging the integrity of.
You want me to compromise?
Here's a compromise. You want your so called universal background check? I want newly manufactured machine guns as accessible as any other firearm. No registration. No 200 dollar transfer tax. There's a compromise.
It's my money. I can turn it into a pile of brass if I want to.
This is a example of compromise for the right. Give us everything, and here is your minor thing.
Know what compromise on this topic would actually look like?
You want machine guns legal again. OK lets start from that. You have to give something of equal value. And you arent. But when the next school shootings involve machine guns and casualty levels that are completely insane, you're going to find that the resulting shock and horror allows the left to ban gun ownership.
Lets not do that ok? Because thats dumb.
So...real compromise.....
Machine guns can be owned if they are held in a militia armory. The militia maintains insurance against misuse of the weapon. In exchange? People who have a history of mental issues-even if not involuntarily committed-are not allowed to own guns.
If you really believe the Russians would benefit from us having the 2nd you're delusional. They'd want us disarmed. Not armed. They'd have backed democrats don't you think?
They're cheering for half the US population to take their guns after the other half, stirring up all kinds of unrest and trouble so our internal fighting will distract us from them pushing out their borders at the expense of our NATO allies. The so-called guns rights group in Russia is a sham, a front to sucker the suckers in this country.
This is a example of compromise for the right. Give us everything, and here is your minor thing.
Know what compromise on this topic would actually look like?
You want machine guns legal again. OK lets start from that. You have to give something of equal value. And you arent.
You want universal background checks, I want universal access to all arms.
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But when the next school shootings involve machine guns and casualty levels that are completely insane, you're going to find that the resulting shock and horror allows the left to ban gun ownership.
I'd end gun free schools. Allow school faculty their right to keep and bear arms onto school grounds combined with the SROs. But you keep on desperately clinging to that bill passed in 94 that's proven how many times? At the cost of how many lives?
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Originally Posted by greywar
Lets not do that ok? Because thats dumb.
So...real compromise.....
Machine guns can be owned if they are held in a militia armory. The militia maintains insurance against misuse of the weapon. In exchange? People who have a history of mental issues-even if not involuntarily committed-are not allowed to own guns.
That would be compromise.
Nope. Because it states the right of the people. Not the right of the militia.
It's either in private hands or its not. Not locked up in an armory.
I'll let you have the nuts and psychos rights entirely. 1st on up. Can sterilize them too if you want to prevent the further bad seeds from sowing.
She appeared in court yesterday and was ordered held for trial without bail as she is/was deemed a flight risk.
"All of Butina's known personal ties, save for those U.S. persons she attempted to exploit and influence, reside in the Russian Federation," the court documents state.
The court documents, however, do refer to a romantic relationship with a 56-year-old U.S. person who prosecutors asserted was used by Butina to access "an extensive network" of other influential Americans.
The relationship did not appear to represent "a strong tie to the United States," because prosecutors alleged that Butina allegedly offered a separate U.S. person sex in exchange for a job with an undisclosed "special interest organization."
The Senate is going to vote to block Trump from handing over US citizens to Russia to be interrogated (tortured).
Yea, only the US is allowed to interrogate (torture) people, lol.
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