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They wanted access to the White House and the NRA was a means of using them, this was yet another example of Russia attempting to get into the Trump campaign. It wasn't about the NRA, they were just a vehicle. Read through the Affidavit below,, it has details of her emails and other conversations. The WSJ also has an article on it today that provides more details.
She was directed by Alexander Torshin Russian central bank governor who was previously sanctioned in April.
"Unrelated to specific campaigns, I have been very involved in securing a very private line of communications between the Kremlin and key GOP leaders through of all the conduits, the NRA"
LOL
Meanwhile Trump placed more sanctions against Russia. Fact.
Trump approved an arms deal with the Ukraine. Fact.
That's quite transcending of the Trump being Putin's puppet.
Oh god, better get the articles ready for you, because God forbid I form a statement independently... that's impossible for I must hold the same lemming mentality as you...
Clearly part of the larger program to influence the voting public and sway elections. This comes out while Putin is denying that they have done anything.
It has been said before that this is really not new. Theses techniques have been in practice by Russia for years against some of our European allies. The goal is to destabilize our republic, and judging by some of the Trumplodytes on this discussion board it has been working.
LOL
If that's true, your girl was a great propagandist for Russian points of view... she did herself in so did her affiliates on camera no less!
LOL
Meanwhile Trump placed more sanctions against Russia. Fact.
Trump approved an arms deal with the Ukraine. Fact.
That's quite transcending of the Trump being Putin's puppet.
Oh god, better get the articles ready for you, because God forbid I form a statement independently... that's impossible for I must hold the same lemming mentality as you...
She may very well have failed in her effort, this isn't about Trump but she did see a real opportunity to get to him. If you look closely at the sanctions they were not Trumps idea, it was congress that led the way.This may have been part of the waring by Sally Yates to the White House last year. Even so he does have some very supportive views on Russia.
Some GOP leaders have some real explaining to do along with the NRA leadership.
She may very well have failed in her effort, this isn't about Trump but she did see a real opportunity to get to him. If you look closely at the sanctions they were not Trumps idea, it was congress that led the way.This may have been part of the waring by Sally Yates to the White House last year. Even so he does have some very supportive views on Russia.
Some GOP leaders have some real explaining to do along with the NRA leadership.
Oh goody, a confession that this doesn't have to do with Trump. Which we've been saying all along... you're slowly seeing the events for what they are/were. She wanted to extend gun rights in Russia. Sought an American pro gun lobby out. And it's collusion or election interference. Then its well, no longer about Trump.
Who's ideas they are, are irrelevant, he signs bills into law doesn't he? He gets the final say via signature or veto. Obviously the sanctions and the arms deal stuck. He's got final say does he not?
Again. If he was Putin's puppet, wouldn't he have delivered the Ukraine on a silver platter for him opposed to approving an arms deal with the Ukraine?
Wouldn't he have been lifting sanctions left and right on Russian businesses?
Would he have sent missiles after Assads forces/bases for the gas attack? Russia's ally-Assad?
Everything he's done has transcended the notion and logic of Trump=Putin's puppet.
Look at the events, the players, and ask who benefits.
A young Russian woman, outraged over Sandy Hook, comes to America to bring back American ideas/politics to Russia.
Even with a "back channel" to American Politicians. Who benefits and why? Honestly. Answer that for me.
How I see it, Torshin and Maria would be seeking the NRAs help to influence Russia's politics. Not the other way around! Otherwise, both would be here pushing anti gun rhetoric.
Oh goody, a confession that this doesn't have to do with Trump. Which we've been saying all along... you're slowly seeing the events for what they are/were. She wanted to extend gun rights in Russia. Sought an American pro gun lobby out. And it's collusion or election interference. Then its well, no longer about Trump.
Who's ideas they are, are irrelevant, he signs bills into law doesn't he? He gets the final say via signature or veto. Obviously the sanctions and the arms deal stuck. He's got final say does he not?
Again. If he was Putin's puppet, wouldn't he have delivered the Ukraine on a silver platter for him opposed to approving an arms deal with the Ukraine?
Wouldn't he have been lifting sanctions left and right on Russian businesses?
Would he have sent missiles after Assads forces/bases for the gas attack? Russia's ally-Assad?
Everything he's done has transcended the notion and logic of Trump=Putin's puppet.
Look at the events, the players, and ask who benefits.
A young Russian woman, outraged over Sandy Hook, comes to America to bring back American ideas/politics to Russia.
Even with a "back channel" to American Politicians. Who benefits and why? Honestly. Answer that for me.
How I see it, Torshin and Maria would be seeking the NRAs help to influence Russia's politics. Not the other way around! Otherwise, both would be here pushing anti gun rhetoric.
If she was just interested in Russian gun rights then why the clandestine GOP contacts. Trump could be involved but I doubt, as usual that doesn’t mean his son and others in his campaign are in the clear. I hope they will divulge the names of her GOP contacts.
Rejoice, it’s just a Russian spy infiltrating our government, Trump is safe for the moment and that’s all that’s important.
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If she was just interested in Russian gun rights then why the clandestine GOP contacts. Trump could be invoked but I doubt, as usual that doesn’t mean his son and others in his campaign are in the clear. I hope they will divulge the names of her GOP contacts.
Rejoice, it’s just a Russian spy infiltrating our government, Trump is safe for the moment and that’s all that’s important.
LOL. "Russian gun rights" are not even a thing. There are none, and there never will be any. Keep in mind that her claiming to be for that while being told what to do and organizing for Putin is simply hilarious. And a GREAT example of Russian humor which way too many people miss.
If she was just interested in Russian gun rights then why the clandestine GOP contacts. Trump could be invoked but I doubt, as usual that doesn’t mean his son and others in his campaign are in the clear. I hope they will divulge the names of her GOP contacts.
Rejoice, it’s just a Russian spy infiltrating our government, Trump is safe for the moment and that’s all that’s important.
The NRA isn't the government, and the "infiltration" did what for the GOP?
You guys keep pushing for the influencing of our government, yet... you can't post anything worthy that they did to influence the government one way or the other.
Absolutely nothing.
LOL. "Russian gun rights" are not even a thing. There are none, and there never will be any. Keep in mind that her claiming to be for that while being told what to do and organizing for Putin is simply hilarious. And a GREAT example of Russian humor which way too many people miss.
Which would be why it would be American politics influencing Russian politics. My point entirely.
For if the woman did anything to influence, she wouldn't have been here pushing pro gun, she'd be spewing anti gun rhetoric. Not looking to get gun rights to be a thing in Russia.
She would be adopting HRC and democrats to influence Russian policy onto the American government... did you even read the link I posted for goodnight?
The NRA isn't the government, and the "infiltration" did what for the GOP?
You guys keep pushing for the influencing of our government, yet... you can't post anything worthy that they did to influence the government one way or the other.
Absolutely nothing.
The NRA spent 54 million on the 2016 elections. Eclipsing its last record of 27 million.
AND...notice that there is some reason to believe it may vastly exceed that 54 million figure.
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