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Old 07-17-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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What say you? Does this betrayal by Obama even matter?
If you're outraged at Obama's being too cozy with Russia, you should be equally outraged at Trump.

Either you agree that NO U.S. president should trust Russia, or you don't.

Which is it?
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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It’s gonna happen.
Absolutely, positively nothingburger. I am trying to prepare you.

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You answered your own question.

If you aren't outraged at Trump being Putin's puppet, then complaining about any past administration's relationship with Russia is a moot point.

Either you agree that NO U.S. president should trust Russia, or you don't.

Which is it?
Lawyerisms. Hillary?
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Old 07-17-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Absolutely, positively nothingburger. I am trying to prepare you.



Lawyerisms. Hillary?
It might surprise you but Putin is a lawyer also. He understands legal implications very well.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:19 AM
 
Location: North America
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Ok. I'll bite. What are "Russian interests"? Please tell us how Russia has benefitted over the US since Trump took office...
Don't ask for what you don't want.

Let’s start with NATO:
- Refusal to commit to Article 5 (google it)
- Considered moving US forces away from Russian border
- Frames NATO as a protection racket

On to the EU:
- Falsely claims EU was created to take advantage of th US.
- Openly supported Brexit (Putin interfered with the referendum, just as he did with our elections)

Germany:
- Systematically destroying our relationship with Germany (Merkel is the head of the EU, and an adversary of Putin)

Weaken US Sanctions on Russia
- Wanted the State Dept to lift sanctions on Russia. As a result, Congress codified Obama sanctions, so they could NOT be lifted.
- Trump lobbied against CAATSA, which put new sanctions on Russia, and delayed sanctions.

Crimea
- Trump called Crimea part of Russia at the G7 summit, because, he says, everyone there speaks Russian.
- Wants Russia admitted to the G7, though allies and lawmakers were against it.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:20 AM
 
Location: North America
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I love how the Trumpettes diversion tactics are flying around like a bunch of mosquitoes around a pond.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This too.



seems we have a whole big bunch of distraction threads intended to protect Trump and Putin....





The truth does protect the innocent.
It will set you free.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You guys should’ve done something about it back then if this is true. But you didn’t.

Trump is now the president, so no one is interested in Obama anymore. Let’s talk about what’s happening NOW.



Exactly..... It's Bush's fault
Trump is cleaning up the mess Obama left, and fixing to Invoice Obama for it.
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