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Old 07-17-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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Trump is responsible for his behavior with Putin. He made a disgusting display. When is Trump going to put America First like he says in all of his Rallies? I view Trump as a traitor after yesterdays fiasco. Hillary and Obama had nothing to do with Trumps responses. This falls directly on Trump.
What should he have done? What were you expecting?

This is not a sit-com where all of the issues are fixed in a 30 min program.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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It is fitting they'd resort to the old Soviet method of whataboutism.
Realizing that the reasons relations with Russia are bad is because of our illegal activities is not whataboutism, it’s common sense.

The fact that it has not even entered our national discussion is proof our media is controlled state propaganda.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Tucker Carlson is a well paid fool. Rob Reiner highlights a cyber penetration by the Russians and Carlson deflects Reiner's argument by saying that the Chinese are a bigger problem that is being ignored by Hollywood.

Both countries are a cyber danger to the United States. By making this a conservative vs. liberal fight Fox minimizes the problem. It is an American problem that we shouldn't play politics with.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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Putin is all about disrupting the American political system and undermining and harming attempts to do what is in America's interests. He was aware that if Trump won, the US media would do everything they could to attack Trump and make it as difficult as possible for him to accomplish anything. In fact in the event of Trump winning-the MSM would do a far better job than the KGB's descendants could ever imagine.

He was right. The MSM is carrying on the Russian agenda far more effectively than the KGB ever did during the cold war. The dissention, the identity politics, the constant lies and deceit from CNN, the NYT, WAPO, MSNBC, etc, are things that the Russians couldn't manage alone. But-they don't have to! The media, OUR media, is a far more effective enemy of this country than the Russians.
Yep.. Putin's goal is to disrupt and thanks to Liberals Putin succeeded. Good going libs <sarcasm>

And because of TDS they still can't see they're being played .... "by Putin" <amazing>
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Tucker Carlson is a well paid fool. Rob Reiner highlights a cyber penetration by the Russians and Carlson deflects Reiner's argument by saying that the Chinese are a bigger problem that is being ignored by Hollywood.

Both countries are a cyber danger to the United States. By making this a conservative vs. liberal fight Fox minimizes the problem. It is an American problem that we shouldn't play politics with.
Did you notice that Rob Reiner has been running his mouth more lately? That's because his movie was to be released soon. But aahh, poor Rob, his movie made a measly $41,000 on opening weekend.

My point being that this is typical of Hollywood, they want to promote their latest film and so they step into politics hoping you'll agree and then go see their movie.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Did you notice that Rob Reiner has been running his mouth more lately? That's because his movie was to be released soon. But aahh, poor Rob, his movie made a measly $41,000 on opening weekend.

My point being that this is typical of Hollywood, they want to promote their latest film and so they step into politics hoping you'll agree and then go see their movie.
he'll always be a meathead.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What should he have done? What were you expecting?
He was expected to take America's side, not Russian side. Practically everyone agrees he blew it royally, even GOP politicians and FOX News, while only the most loyal supporters think Trump 'nailed it' in Helsinki. His performance there was the worst case scenario.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Putin is all about disrupting the American political system and undermining and harming attempts to do what is in America's interests. He was aware that if Trump won, the US media would do everything they could to attack Trump and make it as difficult as possible for him to accomplish anything. In fact in the event of Trump winning-the MSM would do a far better job than the KGB's descendants could ever imagine.

He was right. The MSM is carrying on the Russian agenda far more effectively than the KGB ever did during the cold war. The dissention, the identity politics, the constant lies and deceit from CNN, the NYT, WAPO, MSNBC, etc, are things that the Russians couldn't manage alone. But-they don't have to! The media, OUR media, is a far more effective enemy of this country than the Russians.
Now that right there is some kind of amazing Pretzel making! Wow!
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Seems we are all worked up
Lots of small groups yelling really loud fighting each other
The indians did that lots of small tribes
What happened?
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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No, supporting Russia over the US makes Trump a traitor.

My My how things change


I received a " Time Out " for making such a statement about "I will stand with the Muslims."
Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama


Look at the accomplishments on HIS Watch


- Fast and Furious scandal
- IRS scandal
- Benghazi attack scandal
- VA scandal
- Clinton foundation while she was state secretary scandal
- Drone strike scandal
- Heathcare.gov scandal
- Bergdahl exchange scandal
- Snowden scandal
- Obamacare scandal
- Pardoning of drug criminals scandal
- Trayvon Martin speech scandal
- Anti-government Chicago pastor scandal
- Anti-cop rhetoric scandal
- Henry Gates scandal
- Executive orders scandal
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