Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It will work out. That 9$ steak you currently pay 30$ for in a restaurant will soon cost you 40$ and all will be right with the world.
Exactly. Which is why I refuse to eat at any restaurant in Manhattan. I know that my $40 steak is sending $25 to the City of New York. I won't pay it, I'll eat elsewhere.
Many other people like me are smart and make the same decision. Over time, restaurants die, restaurants fail to open, opening restaurants fails to be planned or dreamed about. Over time society dies by a million paper cuts. And the minimum wage is just another paper cut that will kill our society.
The minimum wage is a tribute and a concession to mediocrity and laziness. It is the weak tyrannizing the strong in the only way it can: by seizing the power of the State and utilizing it to steal what cannot be earned.
The minimum wage is an economic failure, but that's the least of the issue. It is a moral failing and evidence of diminished quality in our population. Why? Because the people who plop their fat asses down in our society are precisely the people who failed to fight for freedom in the countries they ran from. We get the worst of the worst, and they vote to make our country, which was based on achievement and excellence, into their country, which was based on socialism, collectivism, failure, and malice.
Which, by the way, ties into immigration. When we allow too many people from sewer states to invade our country in large numbers, what is going to happen through the election process over time? Lots of tyranny, lots of mediocrity, and ultimately the end of freedom.
They aren't telling businesses what to pay their workers. They are telling businesses the least they can pay. So if a company wants to go above that and compete for workers, they are free to do so. Yay for free market capitalism!!!!!!!!!
A business has rights. Workers also have rights. Minimum wage is a part of workers rights. That wage should correspond to how much it takes to live today.
Exactly. It kills me when people start talking about taking away the minimum wage, and how you aren't guaranteed a living wage, etc etc.... In NYC, $15 an hour is NOT a living wage. Not even close. Hell, it's barely a living wage in most of the US. That is only $600 a week ($31,200 a year), before taxes, if you work 40 hours a week. That would barely cover rent, utilities, and food in NYC, and that assumes you do absolutely nothing else, ever. If you have to rely on underpaying your workers to make your company work, it's doomed to fail anyways.
The problem isn't wages, but the cost of literally everything else. It's out of control. Wages have not increased as the cost of living has. Something has to give.
Oh man... Several eateries closed. In NYC. Where there are thousands of eateries.
Reportedly, 24,000 dining establishments operate in NYC. Most will survive.
Most restaurant jobs have historically been part time. As such, they are exempt from having to subsidize healthcare insurance.
The move to $15/ hr applies to all hourly workers throughout the state. Reportedly 2.3 million workers will be impacted. The phase- in varies county by county. Some counties will not hit the target until or beyond 2021.
Wage increases can result in cost- push inflation which, over time can erode the increased purchasing power of the increase.
The Paid Family Leave thing applies to a new parent, someone caring for a seriously sick family member and Reservists called into active duty, abroad. It is funded by employee payroll contributions into a an employer’s Disability Plan.
It is not several eateries. There are many. And this is only the beginning as the full $15 do not get implemented until the end of the year. The flood of closures will be seen starting next year. This article just used a well known one as an example.
The $15 Minimum applies to all employees in the state. The phase in is county by county. Some will not achieve the target until beyond 2021.
Exactly. It kills me when people start talking about taking away the minimum wage, and how you aren't guaranteed a living wage, etc etc.... In NYC, $15 an hour is NOT a living wage. Not even close. Hell, it's barely a living wage in most of the US. That is only $600 a week ($31,200 a year), before taxes, if you work 40 hours a week. That would barely cover rent, utilities, and food in NYC, and that assumes you do absolutely nothing else, ever. If you have to rely on underpaying your workers to make your company work, it's doomed to fail anyways.
The problem isn't wages, but the cost of literally everything else. It's out of control. Wages have not increased as the cost of living has. Something has to give.
We definitely live in a different economy compared to the days of old. Raising the minimum wage to $20-$25 would be sufficient, along with some other things. We need to go back to the days of New Deal politics, where monopolies were kept in check.
They aren't telling businesses what to pay their workers. They are telling businesses the least they can pay. So if a company wants to go above that and compete for workers, they are free to do so. Yay for free market capitalism!!!!!!!!!
A business has rights. Workers also have rights. Minimum wage is a part of workers rights. That wage should correspond to how much it takes to live today.
Did you honestly just write the part in blue? Congratulations, you are the first poster I have ever added to my ignore list. I just won't entertain this mentality any longer.
Last edited by Marc Paolella; 07-18-2018 at 09:09 AM..
Exactly. That's why I prefer that cities set their own minimum wage levels because a national minimum wage makes ZERO sense as the cost of living probably triples from small town Iowa to San Francisco or Manhattan.
If NYC wants to make Min. Wage $20/hr. then fine with me, that's their business.
This is a state- wide initiative.
There are 62 counties in NY state and different economies within each county and city.
For me this was all the explanation I needed to understand the $15 per hour rate the Left was pushing for.
I asked 2 very liberal guys I know that own 2 shops what they thought of the mini being raised to $15 to give people a living wage and they thought it was a terrific idea. I then asked them why they don't pay their handful of workers $15 now and they both balked saying "we couldn't afford that! we would be out of business"
Hmmm so the Liberal mind thinks such a plan is good as long as it is "not in their backyard"
Many people predicted this but of course the Left/Democrats will never learn. Watch them try to blame something else or enact another bound-to-fail law to try to fix their failed law. It will be a never ending vicious cycle with them. Now these workers will have no job at all. Leftist excuses in 3...2...1
Sure rising costs impact businesses that may not be doing as well as they once did but you mange to completey miss the REAL increase in the cost of doing business.
Many businesses find themselves unable to renew at the end of a five- or ten-year lease because the landlord wants a far more lucrative agreement.
The article is behind a pay wall --I just opened an 'incognito window' and read it.
So far this year, many New York City bars have shut its doors for reasons pertaining to rent.
Longtime Times Square Irish bar Langan’s — a 25-year-old pub at 150 W. 47th St. — closed on Jan. 18. That same month, Coogan’s — a Washington Heights bar — also closed, citing a monthly rent increase by $40,0000.
After that, Eamonn's Bar & Grill shut down and has since been gutted. According to a note posted on the door of Eamonn's, those owners — the same team behind PJ Moran's and Foxy John's Bar & Kitchen — chose not to renew their lease.
Langan's blamed its landlord for wanting to raise its rent, while Eamonn's simply said it "ceased operations." In February, 10-year-old Asian nightclub Circle closed its doors.
In May, Mr. Dennehy's Irish Pub & Restaurant in Greenwich Village also closed down.
Even celebrity-branded restaurants are in trouble. Guy Fieri's "Guy’s American Kitchen & Tavern" closed on Dec. 31.
Did you honestly just write the part in blue? I reject not only the diminished intellect that could write such a thing, but the values that are behind it.
I assume you're an owner of a multi-million dollar corporation.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
