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Old 07-24-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
Apparently, by men who impregnate women and then abandon the women to raise the child on their own.

Our country needs to consider passing laws against this.
LOL. I wish people were willing to discuss things in a rational manner but I understand you aren't.

 
Old 07-24-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Law enforcement is data and statistics driven. If you don’t like white cops patrolling your neighborhood, then stop committing the lion’s share of crime where the victims of these communities have the cops on speed dial and know them by name.
 
Old 07-24-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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So, if "no amount of training" can help the police deal with this and you're going to give cops a pass for breaking the law, how can you be so harsh on untrained citizens who live in those conditions
Because one is a productive member of society and the other one isn’t. Because cops don’t break the law intentionally like their suspects do.

Juries in America hardy convict cops because they understand this dynamic. Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Philandro Castile, Freddie Gray, etc. and were killled by cops who are still free.

Why? Because cops didn’t break the law on purpose, if at all. See when you whine, protest, and cry wolf every five minutes the jury tends to get numb to it and actually feels bad for the cops.

And then what happens? We black people go destroy and loot our own communities because we have 1 less low life in it. And then we wonder why police are rarely convicted and are force to patrol these dangerous communities.
 
Old 07-24-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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This isn't an issue of reducing crime. This is about POLICE CORRUPTION. Reducing crime is another conversation. Many of us who are victims don't live in the victims described. This was happening in rural Kentucky. To white people. Please stop trying to deflect to "oh its the blacks."

And please stop claiming people addressing racism are racist. We know YOU are a racist. You show it on here daily. That one is getting old too.
 
Old 07-24-2018, 02:11 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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This isn't an issue of reducing crime. This is about POLICE CORRUPTION. Reducing crime is another conversation.
If a cop is coming after you, then 99% of the time you’re doing something wrong. Cops don’t go after innocent people.

This is why everybody looks at a person who is stopped on the road by a cop. Not fooling anybody.
 
Old 07-24-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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I guess I hold the asinine view that until 73% fatherless households comes down to about 10% fatherless households, nothing is ever, ever, ever going to change. Ever. As long as people keep making this choice, they will then be responsible for creating and maintaining generations of war zones. It can't be any other way. A 73% fatherless household rate over time just cannot work.


I guess I hold the asinine view that police in war zones will continue to do an overall amazingly good job, but occasionally one will falter and overstep the line. Human beings aren't perfect, especially human beings subject to war zones over long periods of time. At least soldiers get to come home. Police officers must endure and endure for decade after decade. It's amazing more of them don't go off the rails.
Soldiers get to come home - excused, I assume, for the terrible acts that a few of the commit.
Police officers get to come home between shifts - excused for the terrible acts they commit.
Citizens in war zones that live there their entire lives - must be held accountable.

Asinine
 
Old 07-24-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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Because one is a productive member of society and the other one isn’t. Because cops don’t break the law intentionally like their suspects do.
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The department found that the FPD has a pattern or practice of:

Conducting stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment;

Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment; and

Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

The department found that Ferguson Municipal Court has a pattern or practice of:

Focusing on revenue over public safety, leading to court practices that violate the 14th Amendment’s due process and equal protection requirements.

Court practices exacerbating the harm of Ferguson’s unconstitutional police practices and imposing particular hardship upon Ferguson’s most vulnerable residents, especially upon those living in or near poverty.Minor offenses can generate crippling debts, result in jail time because of an inability to pay and result in the loss of a driver’s license, employment, or housing.

The department found a pattern or practice of racial bias in both the FPD and municipal court:

The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans and that this disproportionate impact is avoidable.

Ferguson’s harmful court and police practices are due, at least in part, to intentional discrimination, as demonstrated by direct evidence of racial bias and stereotyping about African Americans by certain Ferguson police and municipal court officials.
*emphasis mine
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...guson-missouri
 
Old 07-25-2018, 05:34 AM
 
Location: USA
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If a cop is coming after you, then 99% of the time you’re doing something wrong. Cops don’t go after innocent people.

This is why everybody looks at a person who is stopped on the road by a cop. Not fooling anybody.
That's already been disproven in this thread. And you know it. Troll elsewhere please.
 
Old 07-25-2018, 05:36 AM
 
Location: USA
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Soldiers get to come home - excused, I assume, for the terrible acts that a few of the commit.
Police officers get to come home between shifts - excused for the terrible acts they commit.
Citizens in war zones that live there their entire lives - must be held accountable.

Asinine
Him, Nealtaylor, and BigCity are just trolls at this point. And 2 are racists. I think there are those types, and then those who defer to authority even when authority is corrupt.
 
Old 07-25-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Soldiers get to come home - excused, I assume, for the terrible acts that a few of the commit.
Police officers get to come home between shifts - excused for the terrible acts they commit.
Citizens in war zones that live there their entire lives - must be held accountable.

Asinine

Citizens who make choices that yield 73% fatherless households create generations of people with no repsect for the law, or, most importantly, themselves.


That stat has to be fixed, and no external force can make it happen. It can only come from personal decisions and personal character.


Falsely externalizing the problem to the police or the "prison-industrial complex" is simply missing the point.


That's what we need Colin Kaepernick, and his hair, to be protesting.
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