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Old 07-23-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by uggabugga View Post
'react'?

so if they, say, raise their eyebrows, is that the type of 'reaction' you claim enables them to be gunned down legally?
You really have no idea what I meant? Practically all violence starts with words.

 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment View Post
The shooter started the trouble, and it wasn't the first time. Florida law is messed up.
Yes, it is.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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I do wish the shover had not instigated trouble in this case. Caused his own demise.

SYG worked properly as otherwise he was free to pummel the old man on the ground-far smaller than him, too.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by MPowering1 View Post
True story. The guy had been robbed before. So he parked his truck away from his house to make it look like nobody was home and sat with his gun loaded, waiting for them. When they broke in, he killed them.

That's setting a trap and he got life in prison.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...teens/8480047/
He should have got a medal.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by uggabugga View Post
is that true? doesn't seem right.
Yes, it is true. If you draw you draw to kill. Warning shots are also a big no-no.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Originally Posted by RMESMH View Post
Another poster on this thread mentioned that brandishing, without being followed with a shot, isn't allowed in Florida.
I don't know Florida law but just about everywhere in the U.S. displaying a firearm in a threatening manner, i.e. brandishing, is a crime, unless the brandisher is using his weapon to control a potentially deadly situation. I don't think Drejka would have been charged with brandishing if he had just used his weapon to get McGlockton to back off and had then gone on his way.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
Where do you think we're going? Every time a cop does his job the idiots burn half the city down. People are going to take the law into their own hands if they have to.

I live in a liberal hellhole and have no idea what my rights are here, I'm thinking they are something akin to the Soviet Union (Minnesota). We don't have a SYG law here. So in my case, I'm better off hoping the violent animal criminal who belongs in a cage either doesn't notice me or has something else on his mind. Because if I kill him with a gun I'm screwed. If I beat the living crap out of him (which I probably could against most) I'm screwed and probably sued. So in my case, living in a place that hates white males and will automatically assume I had whatever assault coming...I'm better off hoping for the best and doing NOTHING.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by BobNJ1960 View Post
This fits the legal definition of SYG, and the sheriff vouching for it would make him be called as a defendant's witness if Fl attempted charges, which it almost surely will not.
The State Attourney's office is reviewing the case.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MattMN View Post
Ok, so what if the shover did not physically touch the shooter. What if he came out of the store and started yelling at the shooter as he was approaching him - "back away from my girlfriend or I'm going to kick your ass!" Does the shooter still have a right to shoot him because he feels threatened?

Nope. At that point the shover has done nothing illegal. The shooter has been offered an avenue of safe recourse. When you blindside shove someone ten feet down on the pavement (such a shove would be a rather significant impact, basically a two handed open palm punch), you never gave the other guy a chance to back away.
 
Old 07-23-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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The State Attourney's office is reviewing the case.
will go nowhere. Sheriff's comments are critical. Sheriff stated clearly his investigation verifies SYG as applicable.
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