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Old guy? He is 47, lol, about the same age as me. Is that what you call old now days?
Not adding anything, I stated "possibly" inferring I do not know until more evidence comes out.
My way may have ended up with that, but it would not have ended up with me dead like in this story. I rather serve a few years than be dead. But I would leave such things to the jury, you know the whole "rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6" thing.
Reality is depending on the situation, did as you stated, or just did a rear choke, bring him to the ground, and detain him while searching and gaining control of his weapon, but that would be an extreme case if I think he was going to be physically violent with me or my wife with no chance to evade.
You have the same mindset as the shooter. Just something you should consider. All it takes is some words and you're all ready to beat the sh*t out of someone and put them in a chokehold.
I'm sure he has the same ready made excuses as yourself about "possibly physically violent" and shares your judged by 12 motto.
Dude, take a long look in the mirror on this one. You started out arguing against the shooter but then explain his very mindset.
I’m a FL resident who moved here from NYC a few years ago. One of the reasons for my move is to escape the insane left wing liberal laws in NYC that benefit criminals rather than law abiding citizens. In NYC you’re not even allowed to defend yourself as a first resort. According to their law, if you’re being attacked, you’re first action is to run, then defend yourself if you have absolutely no other option. Oh, and get this.... You’re only allowed to use equal force to defend yourself if attacked. I recall a case where a man broke into an apartment and the resident defended themself with a bat. Guess what.. the resident got charged with assault for using excessive force to defend themself.
I’m a huge defender of SYG. I don’t believe that anyone should have to retreat if being attacked. I keep a gun at home as well as my car in the event I have to defend myself.
This incident is not a clear cut and dry SYG case though.
- You’re taught when acquiring your CCP that you are NOT allowed to place yourself in any hostile situation that may result in you having to use your weapon. The shooter has a history of engaging in this type of behavior and even threatened to kill someone for illegally parking. Rather than be some sort of parking enforcement vigilante, he should have just phoned the police to report the incident and not engaged in an argument.
- The victim coming out of the store did not just push the man for the sake of pushing him. He came out and witnessed this man engaging in a hostile argument with his S/O. Could he have handled it differently?, perhaps. Given the close proximity that the shooter was to the car and the female, I take it that he wanted to protect and create some distance between the two resulting in the push.
- Once on the floor from the shove, the pusher did not attempt to continue attacking the shooter. He stood still and even RETREATED once the shooter brandished his weapon. At that moment the fear or threat of being attacked further was neutralized eliminating the need to fire off a shot. If you ask me, he shot out of anger and retaliation. Not out of fear for his life.
It will be very interesting to see if the District Attorney decides to file charges.
It is NOT a BS Law... Far from it.
Go live in NY or MA. My sister and a group of her friends were stalked walking to their campus out in springfield MA when she was in college. It was ILLEGAL at the time to be carrying any sort of weapon. I had her and her friends get chlorinated brake clean to keep in their purses. Because Pepper spray was illegal there unless you were law enforcement. Well, 2 of her friends got attacked by a much bigger dude when they split up. They were able to spray the guy in the eyes put his dick in the dirt took the fight right out of him...
If they had pepper spray, that guy they shot in the face, the girls would have been charged if caught...
Turns out the man who had chased them was picked up stumbling around by campus cops. He had quite a resume I mean rap sheet.
It is not a BS law. You have a right to not be physically assaulted and a right to defend yourself as you see fit. Why do you have a problem with people defending themselves?
There is a difference between the two examples.
The one stalking your sister and friends was looking for trouble.
Drejka has had a history of provoking people and getting in shouting matches and looking for trouble and he found it.
You cannot separate this incident from the statistics that whites use to judge black people.
....oh god, I forgot I temporarily took you off ignore. Even when two white people shoot each other....it's racism against blacks.
Also, as a parting comment, I do not find you to be a fluid or original thinker on racial topics nor even particularily informed on such topics. I just think you spew Farrakhan talking points like a Rush Limbaugh fan with just enough stuff "sorta" correct to cover a turdpie of argument with a layer of frosting.
Right, he wasn't scared when he was running his mouth against a woman alone in a car with a child, i.e. someone he perceived as weaker than himself. I guarantee you if it had been a brawny male sitting in that car, Michael Drejka, the lunatic, would not have been harassing them.
Your guarantees aren't worth ten sheets of used toilet paper. Too bad the bigger guy was such a chickenshiite that he had to blindside an older guy and didn't have the courage to call out as he was approaching to give the guy a chance to face him and stand up to him. Most real men would have shouted out the instant they stepped out the door and saw someone arguing with their gf.
There is a difference between the two examples.
The one stalking your sister and friends was looking for trouble.
Drejka has had a history of provoking people and getting in shouting matches and looking for trouble and he found it.
Such a history...
You realize if that were true he'd have either
1. Been trespassed from the place.
2. Baker acted for being confrontational.
I'm not buying it for a moment.
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