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It is not there until the 3rd re-issue, in a footnote....
I provided you the text from page 16 in the first warrant that the judge was informed that this could be a political hit piece, make your case that the judge wasn't aware.
Everyone agrees that IF the FISA warrant was illegally obtained (that's still an 'if'), then it's all fruit of the poisonous tree & the Mueller investigation gets shut down. That's not political, that's just the law.
If the police want to raid someone's house because they think they're selling drugs, they can't go to the judge and claim they have proof of child sex trafficking in order to get the warrant the want. If they did and it was found out, the case would be thrown out of court.
If there was credible intelligence from foreign intelligence agencies, why didn't they use that in the FISA warrant? Doesn't make sense does it?
In the end, this only matters if the FBI submitted evidence they knew was unverified in order to trick the Judge into giving them the warrant. If they didn't, it's full steam ahead for Mueller.
So why does Trump claim unequivocally that the FISA warrant was illegal? He and his ilk keep spouting that the FISA warrant was issued because of the dossier. The warrant was issued in part because of the dossier, much of which is verified, but also other evidence as well. The judges did not depend entirely on the dossier. But as long as Trump touts that lie over and over and over, his supporters will continue to believe it. It's unreal.
"McCabe was asked to point to anything in the dossier that he knew to be true. McCabe noted that the dossier said, accurately, that the unpaid, low-level Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page visited Moscow in July 2016.
McCabe's questioners were not impressed. Page's Moscow trip was reported in the press at the time it happened; the simple fact that he was in Russia was not a revelation. Lawmakers reminded McCabe that Page's presence in Moscow was long established and then asked again: Was there anything more in the dossier that McCabe now knows to be true? McCabe, according to sources, said he did not know how to answer the question."
It seems like a lot of you guys are reading between the lines and making assumptions about redactions.
Sure, there is a chance that information was misrepresented, but it’s hard for me to imagine that 4 different federal judges signed off on this and were all either duped or corrupt. You guys really believe that 4 Republican judges were in bed with both Hillary and Obama, two people who don’t like each other. Bentbow has even made allegations that Jeb Bush was involved. Not that I would put Bentbows words in someone else’s mouth.
Just based on what we know he was working closely with the Kremlin (based on Pages own public statements), he wasn’t just some typical citizen and from my perspective they had every right to investigate him based on what information I have read. Mason3000’s posts and links actually have made me believe the judges made the right call despite him trying to say the opposite.
The judges ruled on what was presented to them by the FBI as "verified accurate". Their job is not to verify the information in the application. That's the point.
You're searching under every rock looking for ways to justify what happened because you don't want it to be true.
It's as simple as this: Everything that is listed as "Source #1" in the application, everything regarding media leaks, everything regarding Yahoo News or other MSM articles supporting the FBI claims & every claim regarding Carter Page from the time of the election onward, are all based on the Russian 'dossier'. All of them.
In the application the FBI "certified" that everything in the application was "verified as accurate". We know factually that's not true because the FBI & the author of the Russian 'dossier' have told us point blank that it was not verified at the time of the application.
All your talk of 4 Judges, Hillary & Obama not liking each other, Jeb Bush, etc. are all just sideshows. The information in the application must be verified and accurate before submission and they were not. No one is debating this fact. What they're doing, is what you're doing, trying desperately to distract from this basic fact because it destroys the Russian collusion narrative against Trump.
So why does Trump claim unequivocally that the FISA warrant was illegal? He and his ilk keep spouting that the FISA warrant was issued because of the dossier. The warrant was issued in part because of the dossier, much of which is verified, but also other evidence as well. The judges did not depend entirely on the dossier. But as long as Trump touts that lie over and over and over, his supporters will continue to believe it. It's unreal.
Because the bulk of the evidence used to get the FISA warrant came from the Russian 'dossier', which was unverified at the time of the FISA application. The FBI is not allowed to lie and tell the FISC that the information presented is "verified as accurate", when it's not.
It really doesn't matter how much of the evidence from the FISA application came from the Russian 'dossier'. One piece of false evidence or all of it. The FBI can not, under any circumstance, include evidence that has not been "verified as accurate" and they did.
Although it's irrelevant, ask yourself these questions:
- Why would the FBI include any information from the Russian 'dossier' at all, when they knew it was unverified?
- You claim they had plenty of evidence without it, so why include it if they knew it was unverified?
- If they had such strong evidence without the unverified Russian 'dossier', why would they lead with that piece of evidence in the application?
I provided you the text from page 16 in the first warrant that the judge was informed that this could be a political hit piece, make your case that the judge wasn't aware.
No mention of Clinton, the Clinton campaign, "Candidate #2" or the DNC. They could have easily said "The FBI understands that candidate #2's campaign paid for this information in order to damage the campaign of candidate #1"
No, he's quite obviously not. The FBI undeniably lied to the FISA court. They certified on page #53-54 that all information in the FISA application had been verified for accuracy. They have since said the Russian 'dossier' which is 'Source #1' in the application was "unverified" and "in it's infancy" at the time of the FISA application.
It's no surprise that instead of reading the FISA application, you're looking to badmouth Nunes, but he absolutely did not lie and you live in an alternate universe of facts if you continue to say he did, when I have just proven factually that the FBI did in fact lie in this application.
" and you live in an alternate universe of facts if you continue to say he did,"
He keeps repeatedly posting Jeff Session's name as AG when we ALL KNOW Sessions RECUSED himself at the onset of the Russian collusion investigation.
THEN he wants US to take what he says seriously!
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