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Old 07-23-2018, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Ummmm...right off the top of my head I'd say it would be because of the obvious: Nazism is not socialism. The Nazis persecuted socialists. You should brush up on your history before making asinine posts like this.

The OP is misinformed enough to think that because the Nazis disingenuously took the name, "National Socialist German Workers' Party", that they actually were socialists. The Nazi dogma is about as right-wing as you can get.
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Old 07-23-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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It’s Not Rocket Science....
• Good: “What’s yours is yours, what’s mine is mine, don’t trespass.”
• Bad: “What’s yours is mine, what’s mine is mine, shut up, sit down, pay and obey.”
• Stupid: “Everything belongs to everyone: take what you need but give us everything you have.”
• Moronic: “Please, please make more surplus, so the collective can take it from you - it’s for your own good.”
= = = = =
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Why do the Democrats have the audacity to criticize Nazism while openly embracing socialism?

Do they not know socialism is at least 10 times worse than Nazism?
Why do you think Nazism is superior to socialism?
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Old 07-24-2018, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Nazi= National Socialist German Workers' Party. I say again...Socialist.
So what? My username is Catgirl64. That doesn't make me a cat.
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Old 07-24-2018, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Don’t know exactly what Trump has to do with someone’s historical ignorance, but it is indeed appalling that so many posters in this thread are buying a 1933 German political party’s name as philosophically accurate.

Come on, guys. This is embarrassing. Hitler would have sent Bernie Sanders to Auschwitz.
This bears repeating.
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Do they not know socialism is at least 10 times worse than Nazism?
Yea, I know. The government running a 7-11 is ten times worse then murdering 6 million people in gas chambers
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:07 AM
 
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And you are correct, far more people died under socialism than Nazism.

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The Nazis killed at least 25 million Russians and 6 million Jews, if socialism killed more people you'll have to elaborate.
Also what examples of socialism are happening in America?
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Ummmm...right off the top of my head I'd say it would be because of the obvious: Nazism is not socialism. The Nazis persecuted socialists. You should brush up on your history before making asinine posts like this.
Ignorance is like a religion in US.

You are right. Socialism is an economic system where the government owns and operates the means of production, and that was not the case in Nazi Germany. Industries remained in private hands. They inserted the word 'socialist' into their name to get votes. Socialism was a relatively new thing, and popular among the Germans at the time when the country was in deep economic troubles. Nazis considered socialists/communists their worst enemy.

I have never met a Dem who promotes a socialist US, where government takes over all industries.
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Old 07-24-2018, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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National Socialism is a Leftist movement that embraces government control just like Democrats.
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Old 07-24-2018, 06:18 AM
 
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Default Democracy is not something the frail minds of selfishness is designed for.

Democracy is not something the frail minds of selfishness is designed for.

Why not look up and review what a "Governance System Is"?
((Governance is all of the processes of governing, whether undertaken by a government, a market or a network, over a social system (family, tribe, formal or informal organization, a territory or across territories) and whether through the laws, norms, power or language of an organized society. It relates to "the processes of interaction and decision-making among the actors involved in a collective problem that lead to the creation, reinforcement, or reproduction of social norms and institutions." In lay terms, it could be described as the political processes that exist in between formal institutions.
Governance is the way the rules, norms and actions are structured, sustained, regulated and held accountable.


and then look up what is "Regulatory Governance"....
(("Regulatory = the expansion in the use of rule making, monitoring and enforcement techniques and institutions by the government and its agencies, in the way its positive functions benefit society are being carried out."

Regulations = rules of order having the force of law, prescribed by appointed authority, relating to the actions of those under the authority's control. Regulations are issued by various federal government departments and agencies to carry out the intent of legislation enacted by Congress.))


These exist to support and promote a social and civic society, and help sustain a civil process for a society to function as a unit.... in a system of "being with Governance".

We have a Democratic Society, that functions by a Republic Process, which means "we elect individuals" to represent groups of people = be it city, country, state and federal. The Democratic system is designed for people to govern themselves, through and by this process and structure by their voice of vote.


America has "never" since its creation of The Declaration of Independence; to facilitate the process of that Declaration, we declared a system of Democracy, and to ensure it design to carry out that Declaration and support its premise of Democracy, we established the "United State's Constitution".

Within this process and system, we adopted the Monetary system of Capitalism, which afford by its structure the means for each member in the Democracy to have participation in the Economics of the Nations.

We further instituted "agencies" that care for and of, the nation, the people and the environments of this nation, as well as its civic concerns, it civil concerns and its social and humanitarian as well as it ecological concerns, it infrastructure concerns and its various servicing needs to support those concerns within agencies and by and through agencies.

It is a form of a Social society... (ism = a distinctive practice, system.)
Our American system happen to be Democratically Structured as a Governance system that does so by regulatory process and procedures.

We are not a system of Socialism by the generalized definition, We are a system of Democracy, with a Social society, that functions through a system of governance that is administered by regulatory process, of established policy and guidelines.


It IS NOT a system of "do anything one wants, any way they want, any time they want, by any means they want !!!! It is a Governed System that does so by Regulatory Controls and Laws, that establish Policy and Promotes mandates of compliance's.

To achieve this, it is done by "Majority" as the collective support mechanism which serves to determine what is and will be adopted as policy, practice and rules and guidelines, that adhere to function within the Law that are established within our Elected Establishment. It is of design to represent and reflect the will of the people... by Majority Consensus, that adheres to the Laws and Governance Regulations.

Democracy is not something the frail minds of selfishness is designed for.

What this society needs is a Re-Indulgence in teaching "Civics Education" to the masses.

It is a horror !!!! across the nation in and of the widespread levels of illiteracy about what is the Civics Understanding of What is this Democracy and its System of Governance, and the level of illiteracy as to How to live within it.

We have in America a "Democracy", which involves - the individual, the community, the city, the county, the state and the federal system, the beginning of that starts with "the individual" as an "equal member" within this society within our Democracy.

We have a society that lost the understanding of what the word "FREEDOM" actually means. It first means one must be "responsible", because without Responsibility, there is "no freedom", and that responsibility includes and means one must live within and through the governance and its system of regulatory controls and regulations guidelines and the nations laws... and within doing so... one has "Many Freedoms".

It's our DUTY, to be knowledgeable and Educationally informed and Conscientiously Aware about whom we elect, and how the elected support the will and promote the ideals of the people. To do so, Voting is best not done, by focusing on drama and antics, bluster and belligerence, attack posturing and frequency of advertised commercials... WE... MUST KNOW WHAT ARE THE ISSUE AND CONCERNS, that we support with our vote and hold those voted for accountable to carry out the voice and will of the people.

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