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Old 07-24-2018, 09:51 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Trump can't win with just Republicans. No matter how much the base, driven by their anger over the decline of white Christian America rallies behind Trump, if Independents don't come back Trump is toast.

And I think the polarization has to do with the media and the fact that most Republicans watch Fox News, which is basically pro-Trump propaganda. People who don't identify as Republicans likely get their news from mainstream sources which are much more critical of Trump.
What is mainstream? CNN?

If you think that they are not anti Trump propaganda, then you are being just as silly as the people who think FOX is unbiased.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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From my viewpoint, someone who voted independent (meaning not Trump or Hillary), Trump is doing way better than I had imagined. Way better than Obama. Would I vote for him? Depends entirely on who's available, but I'm more likely to vote Trump next time than I was last time... meaning I'd actually consider it.



I don't pay any mind to the propaganda being used in the MSM. It's all half truths to flat out lies by my perspective (on both sides). My whole family used to discuss politics and current events over our weekly Sunday night dinner, there are 12 of us there regularly, and that has ended. Most people out here in the real world don't pay any attention to the "news" anymore. Even my parents disconnected their TV after about 60 years of being tethered to cable.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Fun fact: Trump actually has the highest approval ratings of his own party (88%) of ANY president in the last 40 years, unless you include GWB right after 9/11. And Trump as had this consistently, for months!
That's only because the republican party has fewer adherents than it did in decades past, and those remaining are the more hard-core ones.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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What is mainstream? CNN?

If you think that they are not anti Trump propaganda, then you are being just as silly as the people who think FOX is unbiased.
Yes. Only in a society where Fox News is the standard is CNN considered leftist journalism. I'll give you that it leans slightly to the left but overall it's pretty mainstream. It's not Occupy Democrats or ThinkProgress.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Yes. Only in a society where Fox News is the standard is CNN considered leftist journalism. I'll give you that it leans slightly to the left but overall it's pretty mainstream. It's not Occupy Democrats or ThinkProgress.
Come on. Most of CNNs “journalists” don't even try to hide their disdain for the president. Do you really think they are doing unbiased reporting?
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Yes. Only in a society where Fox News is the standard is CNN considered leftist journalism. I'll give you that it leans slightly to the left but overall it's pretty mainstream. It's not Occupy Democrats or ThinkProgress.
The RSVP list for John Podesta’s dinner party with journalists .

All those names are anti Trump media . CNN ,Nytimes , HuffPost , etc .

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11409
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Old 07-24-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Come on. Most of CNNs “journalists” don't even try to hide their disdain for the president. Do you really think they are doing unbiased reporting?
They just want to score brownie points to see who can be the most Anti Trump . They don’t care about being unbiased or giving viewers any actual information .
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Old 07-24-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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People who don't identify as Republicans likely get their news from mainstream sources which are much more critical of Trump.
That is the understatement of the year. Critical doesn't begin to describe it and unfair would be putting it mildly. If the leftist mainstream media was even 25% fair, Donald Trump's approval ratings would be a lot higher than they are.

What the media fails to recognize is that when you constantly berate and ridicule everything he does, you lose your credibility and not many people believe that they're getting accurate information.

Gallup Poll: Only 32% Trust The Media

Gallup Poll: Only 32% Trust The Media – New Media Central
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Old 07-24-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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They just want to score brownie points to see who can be the most Anti Trump . They don’t care about being unbiased or giving viewers any actual information .
I think it is more than that. With all of the liberal and globalist rhetoric, I think they have convinced themselves that it is their duty to do their part to bring down this president. So much that they have completely forgotten what their ACTUAL duty is, as journalists.
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Old 07-24-2018, 10:31 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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I think it is more than that. With all of the liberal and globalist rhetoric, I think they have convinced themselves that it is their duty to do their part to bring down this president. So much that they have completely forgotten what their ACTUAL duty is, as journalists.
But I'm assuming you think that Hannity and Tucker Carlson, who have made it their mission to promote this President and paint him in a positive light no matter what he does, are good journalists?
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