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Old 12-09-2018, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Treason is when you send multi millions of dollars to Iran, in the dead of night, in the last hours of your presidency, and hope that nobody notices. That is treason.
Yeah, Do you not know that it was IRAN'S millions that was being returned to them? I suspect you do, but like your orange god you don't care about the truth.
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Old 12-09-2018, 06:31 PM
 
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Yeah, Do you not know that it was IRAN'S millions that was being returned to them?
They know. But they continue to lie about it. Because that's what cultists do. Just like the master.
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Old 12-09-2018, 06:37 PM
 
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Another "why weren't Dems mad at Putin when he wasn't breaking the law" argument? Ha!
Putin had been twisting the laws in Russia and pushing the envelope internationally well before 2012.
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Old 12-09-2018, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Short version.
IF Obama announced there was some funny business with Russia and Trump campaign
THEN MM was going to respond on behalf of Republicans that Obama was unfairly trying to interfere in the election to favor Hillary.

You do know such things go on behind closed doors, right? Legal or not...is irrelevant when you have a microphone...
Again, McConnell did not block Obama from doing anything. I don't care who or what (Donald Trump's campaign would've called out the Obama administration for favoring Clinton, but so what?) would have made a scene. No one could have blocked (your language, not mine) Obama from doing a damn thing on this issue. And if Obama was actually swayed by threat of a partisan outcry, then shame on him. He was supposed to be above politics. You do what you have to do to safeguard our elections.

MOREOVER, what you write is wrong on another level as Obama could've taken action without it becoming public knowledge; hell, he didn't even have to brief McConnell that he was taking "x" or "y" action until well after the fact.
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Treason is when you send multi millions of dollars to Iran, in the dead of night, in the last hours of your presidency, and hope that nobody notices. That is treason.
Sedition, maybe.
Treason... No.
Congress has not declared war since 1941.
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:32 PM
 
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There is absolutely positive no comparison to the way Obama spoke of Putin and the way Trump speaks of Putin. When did Obama trust Putin over our own Intelligence agencies? When did Obama talk about Putin like a schoolgirl crush? NEVER. Remember the Malaysian airliner shot down by a Russian missile killing over 300 people? Yeah, Trump ignores that completely.
What does an airliner being shot down by Ukrainian rebels in 2014, have to do with Trump?

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You know what they say about actions speaking louder than words? Obama pulled missile defense systems out of NATO allied countries to appease Vladmir. Obama allowed Russia to control a hell of a lot more of the uranium supply to appease Vladmir. Obama knew about the hacking and did NOTHING. You're right. There is no comparison.
Uh...there is a missile defense system there. It is a sea based system.
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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There is absolutely positive no comparison to the way Obama spoke of Putin and the way Trump speaks of Putin. When did Obama trust Putin over our own Intelligence agencies? When did Obama talk about Putin like a schoolgirl crush? NEVER. Remember the Malaysian airliner shot down by a Russian missile killing over 300 people? Yeah, Trump ignores that completely.
Obama did something much worse. He dismissed Russia and Putin as a non-threat. Remember, Obama was the one who chided Romney over making Russia out to be a dangerous threat by saying "The 80's called and they want their foreign policy back." Which IMO was not true, if it was true Obama and the Dems are being hypocritical against Trump with all the Russia, Russia, Russia conspiracy theories. Obama also dismissed ISIS as being the "JV team" and we all know how that went.
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Another "why weren't Dems mad at Putin when he wasn't breaking the law" argument? Ha!

So, you think Russians hacked the DNC server...what makes you think that?
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:14 PM
 
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You know what they say about actions speaking louder than words? Obama pulled missile defense systems out of NATO allied countries to appease Vladmir. Obama allowed Russia to control a hell of a lot more of the uranium supply to appease Vladmir. Obama knew about the hacking and did NOTHING. You're right. There is no comparison.
The worst (outside of the Russian reset and allowing Hillary to mine money for the Clinton Foundation) was how they allowed Crimea to be overrun, and did nothing about Syria and it's use of chemical weapons.
But Democrats are rarely held accountable by the press, where as the locusts swarm every time a (R) is in office.
The way the two parties are viewed and reported on is obvious.

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Old 12-10-2018, 05:18 AM
 
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https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/24/n...as-a-democrat/



Nothing could be more true. Funny, leftists applauded when Obama chided Mitt Romney at a 2012 debate for claiming that Russia was a major geopolitical foe, stating that the "the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM

Of course, Romeny, like the typical GOP nominee, just sat there and took it, but that's another story.

Perhaps Barack did NOTHING about Russian hacking because he was still in bed with Putin.

You left out the infamous "red button" to "reset" our relations with Prussia.
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