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Old 07-25-2018, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Let it go OP. I am white...I assume you are too but correct me if I am wrong.

The simple answer is: if your Mom or Dad raised you right, you wouldn't need to even ask this question. But I understand not everyone is so lucky to be raised in this manner.

Ta-Nehisi Coates, a black writer/social critic, gave a very good explanation as to why white people should refrain from using the word even while blacks still use it.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/...-coates-n-word

Coates points out that it is normal in our culture for some people or groups to use certain words that others can’t. For example, his dad was known by his family back home as Billy — but it would be awkward for Coates to try to use that nickname for his father.

“That’s because the relationship between myself and my dad is not the same as the relationship between my dad and his mother and his sisters who he grew up with,” Coates said. “We understand that.”

The same concept applies to different groups and their words. “My wife, with her girl friend, will use the word ‘b-I-a-t-c-h,’” Coates said. “I do not join in. You know what I’m saying? I don’t do that. I don’t do that. And perhaps more importantly, I don’t have a desire to do it.”
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Ok, this was awesome.

The Urban Dictionary entry for this is hilarious.
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Let it go OP. I am white...I assume you are too but correct me if I am wrong.

The simple answer is: if your Mom or Dad raised you right, you wouldn't need to even ask this question. But I understand not everyone is so lucky to be raised in this manner.

Ta-Nehisi Coates, a black writer/social critic, gave a very good explanation as to why white people should refrain from using the word even while blacks still use it.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/...-coates-n-word

Coates points out that it is normal in our culture for some people or groups to use certain words that others can’t. For example, his dad was known by his family back home as Billy — but it would be awkward for Coates to try to use that nickname for his father.

“That’s because the relationship between myself and my dad is not the same as the relationship between my dad and his mother and his sisters who he grew up with,” Coates said. “We understand that.”

The same concept applies to different groups and their words. “My wife, with her girl friend, will use the word ‘b-I-a-t-c-h,’” Coates said. “I do not join in. You know what I’m saying? I don’t do that. I don’t do that. And perhaps more importantly, I don’t have a desire to do it.”
Coates is a certified genius.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:04 AM
 
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lt would be helpful, imo, if rappers would stop normalizing the word. I'd like them to stop normalizing the word ***** as well.

Do we not want white people to sing along? Everything but that word? Give me a break. It doesn't mean what it used to, and we are the ones making it commonplace. If we don't want people to use it, we shouldn't advertise it in songs. Or write a note, "only black people can sing along to this song."

Same with girls calling themselves *****, but bitching when others say it. Have some respect for yourself. Or girls loving guys that call women ******* in their songs, and singing it. Stupid.

I don't know what we expect. Why make that a pet name? I never use it, I don't want to normalize it. I'd like it to disappear off the word list personally.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:12 AM
 
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I'd like it to disappear off the word list personally.
I second that, and all the other derogatory epithets. People can lose weight, study harder, improve their earning power, but you cannot change your race.

I'll admit I listened to Chris Rock's 'Bring the Pain' and laughed my head off at one of his most famous bits... but the more and more I hear the word I just shake my head.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:20 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I second that, and all the other derogatory epithets. People can lose weight, study harder, improve their earning power, but you cannot change your race.

I'll admit I listened to Chris Rock's 'Bring the Pain' and laughed my head off at one of his most famous bits... but the more and more I hear the word I just shake my head.
Sadly Shangri-La is a fictional place. I'm old enough to accept that derogatory epithets wont disappear anytime soon or even in my neice's lifetime.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:23 AM
 
Location: 53179
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You are allowed to say whatever you want. Me? Know your audience.

I am mixed race but I would NEVER say the N word around a bunch of blacks I did not know because when they see me? I look hispanic. Around family when joking around? hell yes. Know your audience.
Yes..really.
It all comes down to common sense.
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:28 AM
 
Location: NC
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Context matters.

not really, its meant to be a defaming word in any context.
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Old 07-26-2018, 04:05 AM
 
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Let it go OP. I am white...I assume you are too but correct me if I am wrong.

The simple answer is: if your Mom or Dad raised you right, you wouldn't need to even ask this question. But I understand not everyone is so lucky to be raised in this manner.

Ta-Nehisi Coates, a black writer/social critic, gave a very good explanation as to why white people should refrain from using the word even while blacks still use it.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/...-coates-n-word

Coates points out that it is normal in our culture for some people or groups to use certain words that others can’t. For example, his dad was known by his family back home as Billy — but it would be awkward for Coates to try to use that nickname for his father.

“That’s because the relationship between myself and my dad is not the same as the relationship between my dad and his mother and his sisters who he grew up with,” Coates said. “We understand that.”

The same concept applies to different groups and their words. “My wife, with her girl friend, will use the word ‘b-I-a-t-c-h,’” Coates said. “I do not join in. You know what I’m saying? I don’t do that. I don’t do that. And perhaps more importantly, I don’t have a desire to do it.”
That explains why individuals use certain words with people who are close to them.

That isn;t the case with the n-word. it s used publicly, in entertainment, etc. And it's considered good if one person uses it and bad if another uses it. It's a double standard. Any other explanation is just semantics.
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Old 07-26-2018, 04:06 AM
 
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not really, its meant to be a defaming word in any context.
Exactly.
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