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Old 07-27-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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OP, try posting when you have a better source than the Black Nationalist The Root.

In addition, anyone who wants to claim that votes were changed, without the hardest of evidence, is more or less agitating for a war. Because that would be the only outcome of such a "debate" that seeks to undermine the voter agency of Americans and thus our democracy itself.

Moreover, that would immediately bring into the conversation the illicit election influence, and possibly votes, from illegal aliens. Which we haven't even begun to seriously discuss, and which liberals constantly look to abet via their opposition to voter ID laws.

In other words, you can agitate toward undermining the free agency of American voters, but you'll spin your wheels toward anything positive for your position and will incur a large chunk of negative political capital.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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according to the phony article... they got into California's voting.... no wonder why Hitlery got 4 million more votes.....




the DNC has been invested in their grand-daddy, the soviets(communists...leftists) for over 60 years
I'm in CA. Where I voted, we did it on paper. No Russians hacked my pen.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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I'm in CA. Where I voted, we did it on paper. No Russians hacked my pen.
Agreed, but it can be done not so much by hacking your pen, as in stuffing the ballot box, with more entries for an intended candidate.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Evidence Shows Hackers Changed Votes in the 2016 Election But No One Will Admit It

The current count of states affected by the hacking is now up to 21.

The only reason for an electronic voting machine not to produce a paper output is to allow the results to be changed. There is no other excuse.

Even ATMs produce a printed receipt.

The GOP is invested in denying the Russia allegations. Any acceptance of them leads to invalidating the 2016 election and exposing any role the GOP itself had in this hack, suppression, etc.
Yeah--Trump is out there claiming the Russians will rig the elections, which really makes one wonder if Trump did actually win in 2016, or if votes were changed.

He won by very slim numbers in key states. If states were hacked--maybe the polls were right. Call me Alex Jones, but it is totally plausible that the Russian hackers gave Trump the win. They did everything else they could to help him.
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Old 07-27-2018, 03:54 PM
 
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This is why Hillary needs to run again. She will be guaranteed to win this time since she can be prepared for the Russians
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Old 07-27-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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"every credible intelligence source agrees that Russian hackers, under direct instructions from our sidepiece president, Vladimir Putin, interfered with the 2016 presidential elections. The evidence shows this is true."



What evidence?
I don't see how advertising on Social Media is interference. The Media interferes more than any group or country.

It's interesting how this morphed from "attempting to gain access to voter registration databases" (from Homeland Security and intelligence agencies) to attempting to interfere in "election systems" (NBC "news") to attempting to interfere in "voting infrastructure."

I can't wait to see what they come up with next.
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Old 07-27-2018, 04:49 PM
 
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"every credible intelligence source agrees that Russian hackers, under direct instructions from our sidepiece president, Vladimir Putin, interfered with the 2016 presidential elections. The evidence shows this is true."


What evidence?
And what "credible intelligence source"? Credible intelligence sources don't talk to the public. They talk to their bosses up the ladder in the government, who then decide what to tell the public. Any "intelligence source" that talks to the public is doing so because he wants to influence the public with a lie.
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Old 07-27-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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OP, try posting when you have a better source than the Black Nationalist The Root.

In addition, anyone who wants to claim that votes were changed, without the hardest of evidence, is more or less agitating for a war. Because that would be the only outcome of such a "debate" that seeks to undermine the voter agency of Americans and thus our democracy itself.

Moreover, that would immediately bring into the conversation the illicit election influence, and possibly votes, from illegal aliens. Which we haven't even begun to seriously discuss, and which liberals constantly look to abet via their opposition to voter ID laws.

In other words, you can agitate toward undermining the free agency of American voters, but you'll spin your wheels toward anything positive for your position and will incur a large chunk of negative political capital.
Please, don't call them Black Nationalist. They're racist and dishonest and should only reflect upon themselves just like Stormfront is a bunch of d-bags that don't represent whites.
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Old 07-27-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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The ones who are yelling the loudest (demoncrats) for fraud - well then easily change things -

Stop yelling for discrimination when asked to show an I.D. for voting.

Stop pandering to lobbyists to get more illegal voters with screaming against the Wall.

Stop doing these two things and voter honesty will greatly improve.
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