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Old 07-29-2018, 06:46 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
It seems to be the most logical explanation.

a) NATO allies alert the US to tRump's suspicious contacts with Putin's operatives
b) US intel uncovers Putin's cyber attack aimed at electing tRump
c) tRump lashes out in pre-pubescent anger at US intel agencies and our NATO allies, while kissing up to Putin

It connects the dots very directly.

GCHQ were the first to report irregular activities, followed by other European spy agencies.

At the same time ex-MI6 (SIS) officer Steele put together his now infamous dossier based on credible intelligence sources he had built up over decades.

Dossier - The Moscow Project

Trump openly accused GCHQ of spying on him shortly after taking office.

Sean Spicer: GCHQ could have tapped Donald Trump - BBC News

GCHQ dismisses 'utterly ridiculous' claim it helped wiretap Trump | Guardian

It also should be noted that as a five eyes country the US Intelligence Services have a very close relationship with their UK counterparts. The NSA even has it's largest foreign intelligence base at Mewith Hill in the UK where UK and US operarives work side by side.

Snowden leaks reveal Menwith Hill spy station snooped on global communications

The NSA also has a very close relationship with GCHQ whose main facility is at Cheltenham.

GCHQ - who we are

Meanwhile HMGCC another British Agency based at Hanslope Park were working with the CIA in order to hack smart televisions and phones in order to listen in on people.

The spy base where real-life British 'Qs' collaborated with CIA to hack TVs and phones - The Telegraph

HMGCC | Home

The intelligence services job is to collect intelligence on political leaders, and Trump shouldn't have been surprised by this, indeed Angela Merkel had criticised US Intelligence spying in 2013. The US had been using it's base at Croughton in the UK to intercept Merkel's phone.

Merkel tells Obama: spying on friends is unacceptable - Reuters

Angela Merkel: spying between friends is unacceptable - The Telegraph

Exclusive: RAF Croughton base 'sent secrets from Merkel's phone straight to CIA' - The Independent

Call to open RAF base for investigation into NSA tapping of Merkel's phone - The Guardian

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Old 07-29-2018, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This is the best explanation I've seen for tRump's animus towards Britain and NATO.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:50 AM
 
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It's spelled Trump with a capital T. The anti-Trumps are so childish.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 06:57 AM
 
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Nothing but hogwash.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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It must be taxing working so hard to try and bring a great president down. The attacks only bounce off
President Trump like fiery darts.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 07:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
We saw Trump's true colors in Helsinki. He is traitor.
Really?

Can you tell me if you think this statement is traitorous? "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility." That was ex-president Barack Hussein Obama to Medvedev.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keXx0zxTarE
 
Old 07-29-2018, 07:07 AM
 
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I wonder what he "saw," since he couldn't know anything about the Helsinki meeting? But let me ask, what did you think about Obama's meeting with Medvedev? Was he "showing his true colors?" Remembering that Obama's father and mother were communists, is it possible that Obama's true beliefs are favorable to communism? After all, he was mentored by a famous communist, Frank Marshall Davis.
 
Old 07-29-2018, 07:11 AM
 
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It's spelled Trump with a capital T. The anti-Trumps are so childish.

Anti-tRump = pro-America

Kinda grates on ya.

 
Old 07-29-2018, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Seriously?

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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
I wonder what he "saw," since he couldn't know anything about the Helsinki meeting? But let me ask, what did you think about Obama's meeting with Medvedev? Was he "showing his true colors?" Remembering that Obama's father and mother were communists, is it possible that Obama's true beliefs are favorable to communism? After all, he was mentored by a famous communist, Frank Marshall Davis.
B-b-but OBAMA!

 
Old 07-29-2018, 07:23 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Germany's Federal Intelligence Service, the BND, has also been linked to American surveillance targets including Trump.

German intelligence ′spied on White House′ | News | DW

Who Is Spying on the U.S.? German Intelligence Had American Surveillance Targets, Says Report - Newsweek
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