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Old 07-28-2018, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Actually, if y'all knew anything about security clearances, you'd know that intense government criticism (regarding policy, leadership, etc.) is grounds to deny or revoke a security clearance. The thought process is that you're more willing to spill our country's secrets (a la Edward Snowden) to expose things that you disagree with. This is standard practice and the review is long done.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:14 PM
 
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Actually, if y'all knew anything about security clearances, you'd know that intense government criticism (regarding policy, leadership, etc.) is grounds to deny or revoke a security clearance. The thought process is that you're more willing to spill our country's secrets (a la Edward Snowden) to expose things that you disagree with. This is standard practice and the review is long done.
I think quite a few of us here know about security clearances. And it's not a standard practice to revoke. Trump wants to revoke them only because they have openly opposed him. Trump knows nothing about national security so he needs to get rid of the ones who do to make him look better. It's all about the little man's feelings and ego.....looking out for himself and not our country.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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I think quite a few of us here know about security clearances. And it's not a standard practice to revoke. Trump wants to revoke them only because they have openly opposed him. Trump knows nothing about national security so he needs to get rid of the ones who do to make him look better. It's all about the little man's feelings and ego.....looking out for himself and not our country.
While I'm doubtful that many posting in this forum know about security clearances (particularly at the TOP SECRET SCI level, which is what is at issue here), in today's post-Snowden world, yes it is. Especially when you're publicly vocal with your discontent about government/government policy/government leadership.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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That was a recent front-page headline:

President Vows to Shut Down Security Critics
President Trump threatened on Monday to strip the security clearances of top former officials who criticized his refusal to confront Russia over its election interference, signaling a willingness to use the powers of the presidency to retaliate against some of his most outspoken detractors.

By Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Julian E. Barnes
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/u...learances.html

Here's what should be noted: He wasn't going to address the actual security problem - he was just threatening people who disagree with him, in his petty, vindictive way.
No reason for those Obama communists to keep their security clearance to make money for themsleves, should have been pulled long ago.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:47 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Why should they have to get another security clearance when they already have one, and have had one for years ? You are the one complaining about the expense involved, how about we not double dip by having the whole process done again, for NO REASON.

It would be like if you retire and they made you reapply for your drivers license, when you already had one. Just them retiring changes nothing, they are still actively helping our government when called upon to do so.


BTW, what the Hell does politicized and monetized even mean ? Sarah Sanders may have blurted that dumb statement out, but I still don't get it.
Some may have kept their security clearance by accident(paperwork snafu) or intentionally when it should have been revoked(like Susan Rice). It should be a standard practice to revoke security clearances when someone is fired, quits or retires. That way those accidents, or intentions, don't happen. If they don't qualify for a new security clearance then their clearance should have been stripped to begin with. A drivers license is nothing like a security clearance, apples to oranges.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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While I'm doubtful that many posting in this forum know about security clearances (particularly at the TOP SECRET SCI level, which is what is at issue here), in today's post-Snowden world, yes it is. Especially when you're publicly vocal with your discontent about government/government policy/government leadership.
Where have I been vocal about discontent with government policy.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:57 PM
 
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While I'm doubtful that many posting in this forum know about security clearances (particularly at the TOP SECRET SCI level, which is what is at issue here), in today's post-Snowden world, yes it is. Especially when you're publicly vocal with your discontent about government/government policy/government leadership.
They think Snowden should keep it
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:58 PM
 
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Where have I been vocal about discontent with government policy.
Not you. I'm referring to the former high ranking Obama administration officials who are vocally and publicly expressing discontent with US government policy on MSNBC, CNN, etc.
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:59 PM
 
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Not you. I'm referring to the former high ranking Obama administration officials who are vocally and publicly expressing discontent with US government policy on MSNBC, CNN, etc.
Ok sorry
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Old 07-28-2018, 10:00 PM
 
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Ok sorry
You're good! Sorry if I was confusing before
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