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Old 07-30-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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The Federal Air Marshall thingy was created nearly 60 years ago after multiple back to back hijackings.

On 9/11 there were 33 Air Marshall’s, none of whom flew domestically.

Shortly after 9/11, 4000 Air Marshall’s we’re hired and deployed on domestic and international flights and ground operations.

The FAA handled 15.6 million flights in 2016. Should the FAA be disbanded too?
Well you havent refuted anything I posted so Im not sure why you quoted me, but yes while we're at it disband the FAA. Is it your contention that only a govt bureaucracy can handle air traffic control ( just as only the usps can handle mail delivery )?
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Old 07-30-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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Nearly 3000 perished on 9/11, the majority of which were not customers of commercial airlines and had no choice in the matter.
Where was your FAA or Air Force? Where was immigration? Why aren't pilots armed? You keep bringing up govt failures to justify further ones.
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Old 07-30-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I think the biggest difference between us and them is that they have PhD’s in criminology running their airport security while we have Joe Blow who they picked up off the street, running ours. That is why tickets to Israel are very expensive.
Israel’s security interrogators are trained in psychological techniquies and profiling.

2 or more plain clothes, armed air Marshall’s are onboard every flight, whether a risk is detected, or not.

In 2017, Israel’s Ben Guriion airport handled 15.6 million passengers. In contrast, nearly 1 billion passengers used US commercial airports.

Unlike Israel, the US can’t profile by race/ ethnicity and religion. That’s a price of freedom/ liberty.
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Old 07-30-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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Israel’s security interrogators are trained in psychological techniquies and profiling.

2 or more plain clothes, armed air Marshall’s are onboard every flight, whether a risk is detected, or not.

In 2017, Israel’s Ben Guriion airport handled 15.6 million passengers. In contrast, nearly 1 billion passengers used US commercial airports.

Unlike Israel, the US can’t profile by race/ ethnicity and religion. That’s a price of freedom/ liberty.
Thats not freedom, thats the the price of the guv running it. Private airline security should use whatever measures it feels are in best interests of its customers. Oh but thats right you dont like private business calling the shots and discriminating.
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Old 07-30-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Israel’s security interrogators are trained in psychological techniquies and profiling.

2 or more plain clothes, armed air Marshall’s are onboard every flight, whether a risk is detected, or not.

In 2017, Israel’s Ben Guriion airport handled 15.6 million passengers. In contrast, nearly 1 billion passengers used US commercial airports.

Unlike Israel, the US can’t profile by race/ ethnicity and religion. That’s a price of freedom/ liberty.
I don’t disagree with any of this.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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As I see it, these guys are just doing their job. It's like a policeman who patrols a neighborhood. If he sees someone sneaking around behind a business, he might keep an eye on them. I agree some of the behaviors seem innocuous, like fidgeting or sweating, but no harm no foul.

It would be different if they were bugging someone's phone, searching their property or detaining them for questioning based on these flimsy clues. But just watching someone across the airport? Go right ahead.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I seem to go back and forth between...

1- I am doing nothing wrong, so who cares

and

2- Stay out of my business

On the computer - I definitely trend towards #2, but when I am out of the house - then it could be either.
I'm definitely parked in 2 - stay out of my business even though I can also say I'm not doing anything wrong. It's an overreach.

We basically live in houses now where anyone can hack in and spy on us 24/7 and nobody seems too alarmed by that fact. I find that alarming.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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Israel’s security interrogators are trained in psychological techniquies and profiling.
Ours are trained in online gaming.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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It was sarcasm, bud. Jesus. It was a shot at the Russia paranoiacs.
I wonder why that would be when every day is hair on fire liberal day.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Facial recognition software being used in Canadian malls and i would suspect American malls as well.=
https://gizmodo.com/canadian-malls-s...-us-1827926112
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