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And an authoritarian is an authoritarian is an authoritarian.....and our country current has such an administration in place.....
As they say, no honor among thieves. I'd trust the Chinese over either the Russians or the Americans in terms of doing what they say or agree to do...and that's really the heart of the problem.
While we play footsie with Putin and he destroys our internal strengths with cheap cyber warfare, the real winners of the world are neither of the big "nuke states", but rather China and the Asian area in general.
In the scheme of history I predict the Chinese will be seen a both peacemakers and lovers....as well as the culture leading us out of the medieval religious based period into a future based on actual facts and deeds.
But that will take a couple decades. In the meantime we can fool ourselves.
You address an interesting subject when you speak of China. Many have no thought about the transitions of China and what it learned.
China thought long and hard before it opened its doors to the world, and it learned a great deal from the oppression it suffered under British dominance. It unified its people as "One China' as Chinese People!!! They make capitalism work in their system, and the Chinese people do not have a problem with their Governance System Investing in What Benefits The People!!!!
America has too much greed and selfish contempt and stand against the Government investing in what benefits the American People. Too afraid it might benefit whom they don't want to benefit, rather than supporting the benefit for and to all by and through all our tax monies, benefiting all of us. If such greed and selfishness did not exist, we'd have an advanced system that is state of the arts in all things developed and built for the general public in America.
When China gained the control of Hong Kong in the late 1990's, it learned a tremendous lesson in how to manage two competing styles of governance, not only in governing capability, but in how industry and commerce works in a democratic system, as well as how they managed it in a Communist system, and they did every well with the transition.
They first elevated more than 300 million in China out of Dire Poverty, and in doing so, they also improved education within the ranks of that 300 million, and more!! When they did that, they instituted a managed set of Democratic reforms within their system of communist format. This gave them tremendous knowledge and means of leverages, and as it industrial sector grew, it gave more reforms and adopted many frames of elements from capitalism and infused it within their form of communism.
When they honed the methodology, the spread out into every region that once was held by the British Dominance, and they went there, NOT like the former British, but they went there with "Cooperative Agreements" and did not go and seek to Usurp the governance of those places, nor seek to dominate their people, they went there with cooperative agreements that gave work and infrastructure and improvements in their core natural resource industries and made mutual benefit trade agreements. But they did not try and demand the position to influence in aim to dominate their political systems or policies.
This is a dramatic change for the previous march of Imperialist Styled Treks into other lands. China knows the demand of trying to dominate and how costly it is, It has too many more people to uplift, to be aimed at trying to dominate and control other nations government and dictate over other nations people.
China initiated the AIIB (Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank) the only countries not a part is, America, Japan and Mexico. Japan is already grasping it, as they work out better relations with China, and Mexico will make strong considerations especially after the acts of America talking about a wall, and taking people children and denigrating Mexican people in America. They simply have to offset the Trade Agreement with China to cover any acts by America to damage them by the Trump Trade Agreement Aims. If Trump damages NAFT it will only push Mexico to become more focused on Trade with China. The same with the mess that Trump is pushing toward Canada, which Canada is already a member of the AIIB.
What Trump does not understand is: He cannot do on the world stage what he did in New York , In New York he was skilled at stiffing the people with threat to gain tax concession and hold off on regulatory enforcement, by trying to sue low level people who could not defend themselves and cities that had financial challenges and could not waste money fighting off lawsuits. This strategy does not work on the world stage, and certainly Military threat won't work on the world stage, when the world has seen... We cannot win wars on foreign soil. Allied Nations won't be drawn into any American initiated and American generate war conflicts, and NATO won't sanction such.
We are still trapped in Afghanistan, mainly as nothing more than a means and tool for the Military Industrial Complex to sell weapons and enrich goon squads. For All former proposed aims for going there has long been past time for America to leave. The only way America will get the mineral resource they want from that region is through "cooperative mutual benefit agreements", be it for mining or resources development mutual benefit programs.
China is huge in Africa, they bring training, equipment, skill and resources, and they build infrastructure, not to manipulate the African Nations, but the facilitate the exploration and development to serve their mutual benefit.
Even Saudi Arabia is diversifying and implementing reforms in preparing to join the world on a more interactive and cooperative framework with democratic and human rights reforms. They took money from the very wealth, as a stand that they were moving in a direction that is about the nation, not about the wealthy individual. they know it takes cultural change, and they know its a long game to attain it.
These nations are preparing to move on without America. The climate what what Trump has promoted, is not what is desired by these various nations that are poised and positioning themselves to develop more mutual beneficial cooperative relationships.
North Korea is already set up to become a player in the International trade, they have at their doorstep both Russia and China... and South Korea with its advances in tech and how it manages it economics, is all there to help with the transitions.
The reshaping of International Interaction and Relations is long underway, moving nations is not like turning a row boat, it like turning a convoy of Ocean Liner to meet with a course trajectory that heads into the future.
China is in no rush to jump to some flip the script to become a democratic nation, it knows it has many different factions that make up what is China, it has to retain its system to avoid anarchy, and in maintaining it takes it time in the "long game" to groom its people for reforms. Today, all its people identify as Chinese and they respect each other as being Chinese. That is a big advantage over America's population, which is still being enraged by a black and white madness, rather than as a "unity of acknowledging and treating all as American", A people who choose "oneness" will always be strong and advance with more solid progress than a people who is "divided" and not embracing a concept of "oneness".
The Chinese people who have been uplifted are many and they in many ways have a vastly improved life, and that is a long term aim that China knows involves plans that encompass well over a billion people. They are already taking step to change the dynamic of its aging population, with the ease up on child birth restriction. They know in 25 yrs, they will need to have groomed 100's of Millions of People to move forward as the population ages, they are smart enough not to go rushing down the road.
They have no problem removing from society the official who are corrupt, and any heads of industry that damage their industry and community and society that lives by and through that industry.
America should have focused on Investing 1-3 Trillion into Re-training Americans for the future, Obama had already left a performing economy... and Trump should have focused on Investing another 1-3 Trillion into "new Business Start Up" and invest a "Trillion" into revamping and improving primary education and infused skill development as a focused priority one the basic STEM are taught up to 7th or 8th grade. Then the advanced STEM would be available for those who desire to head to Specialties Advance Degree, and tailor it to those who go the pathway of vocational and technical skill development.
Instead he fleeced the people and filled the pockets of the wealthy, because he himself detest paying taxes.
The World is Watching and they are not just standing still with a dead stare, except at the unbelievable belligerence on display.
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You might need to investigate the grasp the underlying motive rather than simply looking at the surface of act.
There can be many things, which bring Russian to make such a move, especially after meeting in Helsinki. "that is a big matter than many should consider to give concern"... it "can" involve many things.
they could position themselves for dumping of info related to Trump and the many in his network who have taken Russian money and been influenced by Russian system of money based in programming, it could be a trove of data about Trump, that the Russian may find channels to dump, as they hedge themselves against any Retaliation by Trump and the Trump Administration. It could very well be, that Trump has not delivered as promised, and the Russian are prepared to take a position.
It could be that the Russian play around the middle, and consider dumping on Trump as a means to gain better favor with the broader american population who does not support the acts of Trump, or the demeanor that Trump has thrust upon the nation.
It could every well be, the reordering that is shaping up, after the attacks upon NATO and the UN and the European Union by the belligerence Trump spewed since he's been in office.
Nations are restructuring what they use as "trade currency". The power of the Petro dollars has damaged itself in the Arab Nations with the Anti-Muslim spins, and one thing is for sure, "energy is power" and Arab nations recognize that power more today, than they did in the past. they understood it when they created OPEC, and they also understood what happen to them, when they made the stand to choose gold over dollars, and the U.S. spiked up the price of Gold and gave them half the value in actual Gold, for twice the oil, until OPEC went back to accepting the dollar currency, then the price of gold went back down, which told a grand story that did not get the press it should have.
They know now, that the U.S. is strapped with $20 Trillion and Debt, and they wanted Trump give $1.x Trillion to the wealthy, which indicates that the U.S. is aligned for an every greater debt load, because that Trillion represent multiple times it face value, that translates into diminished services and programs in America and that translates to diminished jobs and diminished resources available to support the system and programs that once made America a great nation. They see the damages that the Trade Mess is on tract to create and the damages and devastation it is in process to create. The mess that Farmer are facing is only the tip, and the cost of goods that use processed ore is set to go astronomical in impact which indicates inflation.
They look at the programmed damages that Trump aspires to inflict upon America with additional tax cuts. when NO NATION with such Debt and Such Need for TAX REVENUE can afford to give tax cuts, if anything Tax should have risen in direct relations to the extreme profit gains that go into the hands of the wealthy and their Corporate system, while 'nothing goes to the people". We have decaying cities, we have an infrastructure system that is 50-60 yrs over aged, and some even older, that we can't fix and we can't even structure out business to begin the repairs. We missed the awareness that across this nation, those repairs would represent millions of job and value added benefit to the nation to have an improved and state of the arts infrastructure.
Russians know the "dark money circles, and they know the "offshore hiding points", and they see those areas totals rise, as the wealthy hide more than they had previously hidden in offshore, and many have diversified what they hid and bought other rising currency as a hedge to protect what they have hidden.
Russia does not make stupid move in the regard of money to divest themselves without having studied many variables and considered many options as to how they can make such a move become to their advantage.
They see us, spinning in madness of racial confusion, and that confusion is breeding conflicts, rather than looking at the fact that "all races in America are facing the same despaired challenges"... but when the conflict is driven to promote dissension... it become a detractor that blinds the people as to the way forward.
We have a hedge fund mess in this country, that plays one financial commodity against another, and then split it into derivatives and fragment the value, and that "curtain" is about to face and exposure of the fragile and weak nature of the commodities in the mix.
Our biggest business in America is "Advertising" , and "Sales of Imported Goods"... those are the elements that have Google, Amazon and Ebay the high speculation driven propped up valuation. Much of it is connected to the "acceleration of the trade"... not that actual value exist, but what speculator feel they can push valuation to present for the sake of profit on the spin.
Any American can look, within their own environment, community, city and state, and see the continual erosion and exodus of business and industry, people can look at their paycheck, and look at what is promoted as jobs, when the pay does not meet the income levels to meet with the purported standard of quality living, that American claim to advertise, but a great many of its population can't earn enough to meet.
Companies buying and selling each other to one another for $Billions and 10's of Billions and claiming $100's of billions in value, but it does not, has not and will not translate into higher earning for the general population. Which indicates it is more a "paper shuffle and spin" than actual real time dollars.
Facebook is said to have lost over $100 billion dollars. that was a "paper loss', that's why they still operate, if it was "Actual Greenback Dollars", we'd not be seeing Facebook much longer.
We have Apple approaching a Trillion in Stock Valuation, but Apple does not produce its products in American and American are not gaining a profit in the average cities hands, from Apple, the most is has is select people in the tech sectors of programs and designs, but the actual product is produced in China, and paying wages to Chinese Workers. All America gets is an over priced gadget, that every 6 month's they are duped to spend again.
Our Banks claim high Multi and double digit Billions in Profit, but one can barely find a teller in the banks remaining. they bleed the income of the working people with "fees" until its become more a parasite, than a promoter of business, development and growth for the average citizen.
As I said, I've written much to try and get people to "think", and think of history, learn from history and look at the divisiveness that was groomed in earlier history, but instead of thinking, they 'get anguished" as the fact of how people have been used, and sadly how the white society has been used like pawns by the wealthy to support the agenda of the wealthy, which ultimate leaves them stripped and ripped on a revolving cycle. If madness can be sold to the white society, and them being the current majority, then its easier to enact the madness upon the minority population. this stuff is not created by the working poor of black or white general population, its created by the orchestrator of Money Manipulations and spins of many sorts to keep the general population off balance and spinning on drama of many sorts.
People should look back in history during the Era of the Early Titans of Industry, and how they drove and dictated the political debates and influenced the policy makers with lobbyist and campaign contribution and out-right bribery by the many means that bribes are facilitated. We have politicians who go into office with little money and by the time they leave they are millionaires many times over. Today, we see political office dominated by "wealthy individuals".... which indicates the nature of Plutocracy that has launched its acts and attacks upon and against the system of Representative Democracy, to be driven and manipulated by the wealth and power of the few.
Yes, there is much more to the element of divesting the dollar by Russia, as there is much to the moves in over 60 countries to choose to use the Yuan as a trade currency, without declaring it as the dominant reserve currency.
People can let go of the Post World War II bluster, we are not the same nation in economic power and we are not the same nations in Industrial might, and we are not the same nation in the ways we had influence over many nations during the early era of Post World War II.
That’s a great and pretty spot on post. As opposed to mine which was snarky and flippant, which I meant it to be. Imagine finding a well thought out and informative post here. I am shocked.
You might need to investigate the grasp the underlying motive rather than simply looking at the surface of act.
There can be many things, which bring Russian to make such a move, especially after meeting in Helsinki. "that is a big matter than many should consider to give concern"... it "can" involve many things.
We have Apple approaching a Trillion in Stock Valuation, but Apple does not produce its products in American and American are not gaining a profit in the average cities hands, from Apple, the most is has is select people in the tech sectors of programs and designs, but the actual product is produced in China, and paying wages to Chinese Workers. All America gets is an over priced gadget, that every 6 month's they are duped to spend again.
My guess is that you have not studied much of what you write.
Apple, for example.
An iphone sells for about $800.
It contains about 200 in parts and $10 in labor and shipping. Some of the shipping money goes to American companies .
So, take the 7 dollars or so of labor and guess that China (Foxconn) makes a 30% profit. OK, so China makes $2 profit on each iphone.
Now - take the $590 Profit that the iphone makes when sold in America. That is 100's of times greater than the Chinese make! It goes to the "Apple Eco-System" (thought to include at least 500,000 Americans) as well as Apple Stockholders (maybe millions of Americans). Look at your local shops - there are whole chains of apple repair shops...independent. Apple stores pay vast sums in rentals for those high end malls. I could go on by the VAST benefit of Apple is to the USA. Intel and Broadcomm and Qualcomm and many other companies make the chips...that's part of the $200 I didn't even count in the profits!
So, IMHO, you are not only wrong on this issue - but so far off as to completely misunderstand economics, manufacturing, distribution and the modern world.
I would hope your other rants aren't as off-the-wall as this one. But sometimes one such "fact" can be an indication that the others also need to be studied.
That's OK.... The biggest consumer of goods in the world...... We will do just fine, as the nation gets back to self sufficiency.
That "Gold Standard" may take roots again, as calls to END THE FED rise.
The Rockefeller's and Rothschild's bought this nation from Woodrow Wilson, which put us right back where we were before 1776.
This post in a nutshell is a prime example of why Trump and his little Trumplings are so out of touch with reality. I laughed when I first read it.
My guess is that you have not studied much of what you write.
Apple, for example.
An iphone sells for about $800.
It contains about 200 in parts and $10 in labor and shipping. Some of the shipping money goes to American companies .
So, take the 7 dollars or so of labor and guess that China (Foxconn) makes a 30% profit. OK, so China makes $2 profit on each iphone.
Now - take the $590 Profit that the iphone makes when sold in America. That is 100's of times greater than the Chinese make! It goes to the "Apple Eco-System" (thought to include at least 500,000 Americans) as well as Apple Stockholders (maybe millions of Americans). Look at your local shops - there are whole chains of apple repair shops...independent. Apple stores pay vast sums in rentals for those high end malls. I could go on by the VAST benefit of Apple is to the USA. Intel and Broadcomm and Qualcomm and many other companies make the chips...that's part of the $200 I didn't even count in the profits!
So, IMHO, you are not only wrong on this issue - but so far off as to completely misunderstand economics, manufacturing, distribution and the modern world.
I would hope your other rants aren't as off-the-wall as this one. But sometimes one such "fact" can be an indication that the others also need to be studied.
I get that, but in the general society that does not translate into the ready income in the number you address that filters to the levels across the broad dynamics of American landscape. I certainly appreciate your break down, but I also look at the cost impact on the broader low wage system in America.
Nothing happens in a vacuum... that's a given fact of global business. Given, we can't control what American's buy but we also may need to look at the reality of profit margin per unit. It become a cost element to the American purchasing public. That however does have impacts. The question is are those impacts offset by the break down you presented? By the way, I like people who invest to think and take time to investigate, for that I say, "kudos"!!!
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