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Old 08-14-2018, 03:59 PM
 
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Nope. The FISA application dedicated a full page to explaining who Steele was and who financially backed funding Fusion GPS. It also described the sources of Steele’s information, and advised to what extent they were independently corroborated by the FBI.
Can you quote me the part where "they were independently corroborated by the FBI"? I know that they quoted news media sources as "corroboration" even though the information in those was leaked by Steele from the same dossier. Any "independent corroboration" at all? McCabe definitely could not point at any.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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What does the testimony of Glen Simpson, a private citizen, have to do with what McCabe - an FBI agent, who is definitely not pro-Trump - said about the FBI's inability to confirm anything in the dossier?
Glenn Simpson is the one who hired Christopher Steele to do reconnaissance work. His sworn testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee is as close as you will come to hearing testimony from Steele.
He went into some detail as to how the FBI came by the Dossier in the first place.

McCabe was testifying in an open hearing. There were a lot of things that he knew that he could not divulge in public. The last time I heard, the memos had been 60-70% corroborated. It was Steele's job to gather the info, somebody else's to prove the truth of them. Nobody would expect they would come in at 100% true.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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Manafort did a real service to Trump, by acting and showing the world he was so crooked it is harder to believe Trump is even worse.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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And yet the FBI/DOJ used that admitted "innuendo and rumors" to obtain FISA warrants. Without, of course, telling FISA that those were just "innuendo and rumors".
No, they surely did not. The FBI already had a file open before they ever knew the Dossier existed.

It's in Simpson's testimony.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Guilt by being friends is not a crime...unless you're a fascist.

Got it?
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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No, they surely did not. The FBI already had a file open before they ever knew the Dossier existed.

It's in Simpson's testimony.
Actually they did in fact there were no material facts of crimes which is necessary for a FISA application, just that tricky and clever little POS from Clintons.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually they did in fact there were no material facts of crimes which is necessary for a FISA application, just that tricky and clever little POS from Clintons.
A FISA warrant does not require a specific crime to be committed, the main focus is surveillance based on credible intelligence. There was a prior warrant placed on Page years ago prior and it ended in convictions of Russian agents. Page has a history of contacts with shady Russians, I can’t grasp why they would single out this warrant to make a case.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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A FISA warrant does not require a specific crime to be committed, the main focus is surveillance based on credible intelligence. There was a prior warrant placed on Page years ago prior and it ended in convictions of Russian agents. Page has a history of contacts with shady Russians, I can’t grasp why they would single out this warrant to make a case.
You are correct. A crime is needed to appoint a special prosecutor. the FISA warrant my error.

Has anyone been arrested yet.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You are correct. A crime is needed to appoint a special prosecutor. the FISA warrant my error.

Has anyone been arrested yet.
All the hundreds of warrants out there and the GOP focus on the Page Warrant to make their case for abuse. They had access to the unredacted Warrant, if what you say is true why hasn’t any action been taken. Why choose this one Warrant.
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Old 08-14-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Actually they did in fact there were no material facts of crimes which is necessary for a FISA application, just that tricky and clever little POS from Clintons.
Here you go:

http://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/d...25%20Order.pdf
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