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Old 08-06-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks View Post
Gates is a criminal and a liar, that’s why Manafort hired him.
Well you just made my argument for me. He is a criminal and the jury and judge will see him that way.
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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I got a feeling this is going to be a fun thread to come back to later.
Agree. I'm a betting man and keep a crow in the cupboard.....just in case I need to bake a cake.
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:49 PM
 
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Actually the deception created and perpetrated by Gates makes him a jail house snitch in the juries minds....Here trust this guy...he was really close to Manafort and he won't lie about anything else.

HONEST.
Jailhouse snitchs put criminals in prison all the time. I know. Shocking.
Your argument is so much nonsense. This guy, plus a metric ton of evidence, and dozens of witnesses. LOL.

PLEASE go to the prediction sites where you can put your money where your mouth is so I can take your money from you.
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Jailhouse snitchs put criminals in prison all the time. I know. Shocking.


Your argument is so much nonsense. This guy, plus a metric ton of evidence, and dozens of witnesses. LOL.
So you say. Are you in the courtroom?
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Bwahahahhaa.


The deal involved him admitting to a TON of additional crimes, with the threat of his deal being thrown out if he lies. He didnt "voluntarily" reveal it-he was required to as part of the deal, and this is VERY common in these sorts of trials with a defendant taking a plea.

And the judge is just being a judge in a fast moving docket. The prosecution is utterly destroying the defense at the moment. There was even a real honest to gosh "ah ha!" moment when it was revealed that Gates was embezzling money from Manafort. Which makes it pretty much impossible to try and claim Gates was the mastermind behind it all when he had to steal tiny amounts of the accounts. NOT something the mastermind of something like this would do. And Manaforts defense team was relying on that to try and give Manafort a tiny chance. Thats gone now.

Manafort is toast.
Gates voluntarily revealed to the jury that he took a deal. I have learned that cases that look to be slam dunks are anything but. If it get's to a Jury anything can happen. However, the way Mullers team has been misstepping it's like they are still hoping for an 11th hour deal with Manafort.
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:51 PM
 
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Well you just made my argument for me. He is a criminal and the jury and judge will see him that way.
So Manafort hires a criminal and liar to do legal activities?
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Jailhouse snitchs put criminals in prison all the time. I know. Shocking.
Your argument is so much nonsense. This guy, plus a metric ton of evidence, and dozens of witnesses. LOL.

PLEASE go to the prediction sites where you can put your money where your mouth is so I can take your money from you.
I have a nickel reserved...just for you.
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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It's quiet in here. I guess the paid posters are getting their talking points.
They are over in the "Manafort case will be thrown out" thread, lol.
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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Gates voluntarily revealed to the jury that he took a deal. I have learned that cases that look to be slam dunks are anything but. If it get's to a Jury anything can happen. However, the way Mullers team has been misstepping it's like they are still hoping for an 11th hour deal with Manafort.
Gates is required to reveal he has a deal. Thats normal for these things. And this is not the first time I have seen this nonsense where folks think this reveal is unusual. And Muellers team is doing fine. LOL.

Where are you fed this nonsense about the deal being revealed being bad? Because wherever you get that from is feeding you nonsense.
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I have a nickel reserved...just for you.
Currently where I do this the minimum is a dime given the 10-1 odds against Manafort. (Right up until Gates testified he had much better odds)
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:58 PM
 
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So has the case been thrown out yet?
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