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The Trump Administration has overturned the Obama cafe standards, which would have required average automaker fleet miles per gallon of 54.5 mpg by 2025. The new standards will require an average fleet mpg of 37, which is higher than what it is now, but certainly more reasonable.
The reasons are largely financial for auto buyers, as it would raise the average price of a car to over $35,000, which is not affordable for most people.
Also, California is going to have to comply with the national regulations and will not be allowed to establish its own separate regulatory regime on this topic.
So much for state's rights, eh Republicans? How much does this make me hate Trump supporters? Beyond measure.
With credits, it would have only been 40.
Trump and Republicans are doing everything they can to harm the environment. I just love how Republicans champion state's rights until they are in control. Then they do everything they can to use federal laws to attack state's rights. There's about 16 other states that want to follow California's standards and if those states want to continue reducing pollution, why shouldn't they have that right? Why shouldn't they?
What Republicans are doing is trying to force blue states to increase pollution in their own states using federal law.
When Republicans are out of power and screaming for state's rights, this will be thrown in their faces HARD.
The reasons are largely financial for auto buyers, as it would raise the average price of a car to over $35,000, which is not affordable for most people.
For consumers, EPA and the highway administration estimate that the technology needed to create cars that get 54.5 mpg—which will satisfy stiffer requirements for emitting fewer greenhouse gases—will raise the price of a car by about $2,000 in 2025. But they also estimate that car owners will earn that money back in two to three years through savings at the gas pump.
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Government should't be telling auto manufacturers what to do. Rolling back these onerous requirements is nice, but the government should remove itself entirely from meddling in the design and manufacture of cars.
So, we should go back to the days when the greatest 'development' the manufacturers did between model years was to determine how big the tail-fins would be?
Manufacturers have been crying 'onerous regulations !' ever since there were regulations yet somehow they've managed to meet them and cars are the better for it. Or would folks like a return to the days when you planned a trip to the salvage yard when the car hit 100K?
The Trump Administration has overturned the Obama cafe standards, which would have required average automaker fleet miles per gallon of 54.5 mpg by 2025. The new standards will require an average fleet mpg of 37, which is higher than what it is now, but certainly more reasonable.
The reasons are largely financial for auto buyers, as it would raise the average price of a car to over $35,000, which is not affordable for most people.
Also, California is going to have to comply with the national regulations and will not be allowed to establish its own separate regulatory regime on this topic.
It really isn't that big of a difference from what was expected to actually happen under Obama's standards and the new standards. Also, after the absolute nightmare that I just went through to pass that stupid emissions test, I'm applauding that CA can no longer be such militant jackarses about it. I've lived in states FAR cleaner than CA where I didn't have to do emissions at all. CA is the land of people who say they care about the environment, want to push regulations on people, want to tax to death the people in the name of "environment", will toss you in jail if you use a plastic straw, but not a damn one of them wants to get the hell out of their cars and practice what they preach.
The air is absolutely filthy in CA. You can see it. Maybe if you've lived in CA your whole life or for many years, you can no longer see it, but for someone coming in, yes, you can definitely see it. I understand the need for emissions in CA - the place is a dump, but their requirements are ridiculous.
As a side note for anyone who didn't already know this: Do NOT have anyone disconnect your battery (for example you think you'll get a tune up before emissions) or do NOT replace your battery (unless you have no other choice because it died, like in my case) just before your emissions test. You will have to do a drive cycle. In some cases, it may not take that long. In other cases, it may take hundreds of miles - so hope that you have time on your tags so that you can drive those hundreds of miles to get all the passes you need in CA.
What the car manufacturers set as their drive cycle is unrealistic in real traffic - you'll cause an accident. And not all garages will do the drive cycle in their garage...at least not without trying to charge you a very hefty price.
After going through that nightmare, I found out that about 1/3 of the population already knew, the rest of them had no clue, so I'm sharing it here.
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The Trump Administration has overturned the Obama cafe standards, which would have required average automaker fleet miles per gallon of 54.5 mpg by 2025. The new standards will require an average fleet mpg of 37, which is higher than what it is now, but certainly more reasonable.
The reasons are largely financial for auto buyers, as it would raise the average price of a car to over $35,000, which is not affordable for most people.
Gee, WHEN did that happen? One of the other BS excuses from the administration was that increased fuel mileage would make driving riskier.
So, we should go back to the days when the greatest 'development' the manufacturers did between model years was to determine how big the tail-fins would be?
I just bought a car that gets around 50 mpg, retiring the old one that got around 45 mpg. I didn't need Big Daddy Gubbermint to tell me to do that. I figured it out all on my own. Do I get a gold star?
We as a nation are awash in fossil fuels, and finding more every year. The effect on the environment with modern technology is no longer the boogie man it once was, and the entire carbon thing is a tenuous argument at best. There is no reason to put artificial, draconian restrictions on auto makers for dubious purposes.
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!' ever since there were regulations yet somehow they've managed to meet them and cars are the better for it. Or would folks like a return to the days when you planned a trip to the salvage yard when the car hit 100K?
