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Old 10-01-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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Not a bad thing to be honest. Especially since Asians will always be marked as "foreigners" in America, it does not really make sense to come here on a permanent basis.

The "melting pot" idea is pretty much being thrown into the trash bin of history.

So true. I had a thread on this topic a couple years ago, after noticing so many Asian-Americans going back to Asia for better opportunities. Even in my own family (have a Filipino side and some Vietnamese relatives) this is becoming a trend. It seems like less and less incentive to come here given that salaries and opportunities are so much higher over there, and they don't have to worry about being treated as cheap labor or second class citizens. Which the H-1B visa among other things, seems to symbolize.

 
Old 10-02-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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So true. I had a thread on this topic a couple years ago, after noticing so many Asian-Americans going back to Asia for better opportunities. Even in my own family (have a Filipino side and some Vietnamese relatives) this is becoming a trend. It seems like less and less incentive to come here given that salaries and opportunities are so much higher over there, and they don't have to worry about being treated as cheap labor or second class citizens. Which the H-1B visa among other things, seems to symbolize.
Philippines and Vietnamese never had that many engineers coming over here. If you are not doing STEM jobs, it isnt lucrative and those people are realizing it. Since its your family, you should focus on illegal immigration that cuts wages for them.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 10:55 AM
 
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Both Phillipines and Vietnam share special relationship with USA.


USA has a colonial past with Phillipines. Under Pensionados program, US military would send Phillipines Nirsiang staff to USA. They have a robust presence in US Healthcare center. I think even now, thousands of Phillipines nationals, after clearing Nursing License exam come to USA on Tourist Visa and then adjust the status after coming to USA.



Vietnam also got a big vietnamese american population ties. For any Professional, coming to USA, settling down and getting Green Card is not a big deal.



IT, H1B and ultra long wait for Green Card is a problem unique to India. It is their own creation due to sheer numbers - millions of them !!!
 
Old 10-02-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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IT, H1B and ultra long wait for Green Card is a problem unique to India. It is their own creation due to sheer numbers - millions of them !!!
I agree 100%. Every single Indian who has come to the US has contributed to this problem and I find it galling that they have the nerve to complain about it. It's not like we changed the rules specifically to hurt them. The rules haven't changed.


Why should we change our laws just because foreign guest workers don't like them?
 
Old 10-04-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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I agree 100%. Every single Indian who has come to the US has contributed to this problem and I find it galling that they have the nerve to complain about it. It's not like we changed the rules specifically to hurt them. The rules haven't changed.


Why should we change our laws just because foreign guest workers don't like them?

Why not put country caps on H1B as well?
Rules are meant to change based on changing needs.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Why not put country caps on H1B as well?
Rules are meant to change based on changing needs.
We should. India gobbles up most of them and is flooding the country with sub-par workers who elbow Americans (and people of every other nationality) out of their jobs.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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Why not put country caps on H1B as well?
Rules are meant to change based on changing needs.

Country caps are on Green Cards. That is Permanent Residency. GC holders are the ones who will stay in USA and go on to become US Citizens.



Visas like H1B or H4 or F-1 are temporary permit to enter the country. What is the point in introducing country cap in these visas which are temporary in nature ??


If 1000 tourists from China come and visit Empire State Building in one day, it is well and good. Nobody will say that from one country only 7% can come and enter Empire State Building. Same way student or temporary worker can be from any country as they are temporary foreign visitors. USA owes nothing to visa holders !!!


They are blocking it at the place where it matters - Green Card 7 % at the max from one country. Long term residents will get it one day.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 12:58 PM
 
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Country caps are on Green Cards. That is Permanent Residency. GC holders are the ones who will stay in USA and go on to become US Citizens.



Visas like H1B or H4 or F-1 are temporary permit to enter the country. What is the point in introducing country cap in these visas which are temporary in nature ??


If 1000 tourists from China come and visit Empire State Building in one day, it is well and good. Nobody will say that from one country only 7% can come and enter Empire State Building. Same way student or temporary worker can be from any country as they are temporary foreign visitors. USA owes nothing to visa holders !!!


They are blocking it at the place where it matters - Green Card 7 % at the max from one country. Long term residents will get it one day.

Read what you have written and try to understand the scenario little better.
Once you get it, you would understand as to how absurd it sounds.

Tourism and moving to a different country to work are two completely different things.

And its not like humans are robots that you can rent for a certain time period and then give it back.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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Country caps are on Green Cards. That is Permanent Residency. GC holders are the ones who will stay in USA and go on to become US Citizens.



Visas like H1B or H4 or F-1 are temporary permit to enter the country. What is the point in introducing country cap in these visas which are temporary in nature ??


If 1000 tourists from China come and visit Empire State Building in one day, it is well and good. Nobody will say that from one country only 7% can come and enter Empire State Building. Same way student or temporary worker can be from any country as they are temporary foreign visitors. USA owes nothing to visa holders !!!


They are blocking it at the place where it matters - Green Card 7 % at the max from one country. Long term residents will get it one day.
Because they AREN'T temporary. It's a dual intent visa and these Indians have no intentions to leave. They're just clogging the green card pipeline and complaining about the rules.
 
Old 10-04-2019, 06:55 PM
 
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Because they AREN'T temporary. It's a dual intent visa and these Indians have no intentions to leave. They're just clogging the green card pipeline and complaining about the rules.

@munna

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