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No. Reagan made the name liberal a nasty word. When he was done, most Americans were embarrassed to be labeled as liberals. After Reagan, liberals had to reinvent themselves as progressives.
Phooey. I have never been ashamed to call myself a liberal. As to the OP, yes, I believe many would consider him a RINO.
The label of 'liberal' indeed had become something to shy away from in the wake of Reagan. This was why many on the left switched to 'progressive' around that time.
I think there is an effort underway now to revive 'socialist,' which had been replaced with 'liberal' because 'socialist' fell out of favor among voters.
The label of 'liberal' indeed had become something to shy away from in the wake of Reagan. This was why many on the left switched to 'progressive' around that time.
I think there is an effort underway now to revive 'socialist,' which had been replaced with 'liberal' because 'socialist' fell out of favor among voters.
I am indeed old enough to remember that, and I also remember being annoyed that Dukakis ran away from the term instead of embracing it. That made him look weak.
Reagan was a pragmatist who was smart enough to know that politics is the art of the possible. He brought into his admin people like George Shultz who were not what was then called 'movement conservatives' because he thought that there were not enough movement conservatives with experience to staff his admin.
It's true that Reagan was not great on guns, but he was not anti-gun either. He once saved a young woman from attack by running out of his apartment with a .45 1911 that he had on his nightstand. https://www.kcci.com/article/reagan-...-woman/6829619
I think he just needed to be better educated on the whole issue. There has been a transformation generally among conservatives on the issue in the last 30-40 years. Richard Nixon favored a national ban on handguns.
The issue of immigration was much different in 1980 when Reagan was elected prez. The percentage of foreign-born in the US then was about 6%. Today it is about 14%. So this aspect of the thread is really an anachronism.
Bottom line answer to the question is no--Reagan would not be a RINO today. He was a principled conservative then, and would be now.
Reagan was a pragmatist who was smart enough to know that politics is the art of the possible. He brought into his admin people like George Shultz who were not what was then called 'movement conservatives' because he thought that there were not enough movement conservatives with experience to staff his admin.
It's true that Reagan was not great on guns, but he was not anti-gun either. He once saved a young woman from attack by running out of his apartment with a .45 1911 that he had on his nightstand. I think he just needed to be better educated on the whole issue. There has been a transformation generally among conservatives on the issue in the last 30-40 years. Richard Nixon favored a national ban on handguns.
The issue of immigration was much different in 1980 when Reagan was elected prez. The percentage of foreign-born in the US then was about 6%. Today it is about 14%. So this aspect of the thread is really an anachronism.
Bottom line answer to the question is no--Reagan would not be a RINO today. He was a principled conservative then, and would be now.
The question was not whether he would be a RINO, but whether he would be considered a RINO. Lots of principled conservatives have been so labeled the past few years. It's really rather ironic, because in many ways Trump himself is not really much of a conservative.
Only by the extremist morons who call anyone who disagrees with a trump a RiNO
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Exactly, the prevailing Republican today.
This is a prevailing liberal myth. Trump was one of the most criticized ever GOP nominees by Republicans. Do you guys not remember the issue of the National Review dedicated to criticism of Trump?
I did not vote for Trump and might have called myself a never-Trumper. But in retrospect he has done a pretty good job, and I will probably vote for him in 2020 if I get the chance.
It is a myth that the GOP has morphed into some kind of Trump Cult incapable of disagreeing with him. There are many like me who don't like his style, but results are more important than style.
This is a prevailing liberal myth. Trump was one of the most criticized ever GOP nominees by Republicans. Do you guys not remember the issue of the National Review dedicated to criticism of Trump?
I did not vote for Trump and might have called myself a never-Trumper. But in retrospect he has done a pretty good job, and I will probably vote for him in 2020 if I get the chance.
It is a myth that the GOP has morphed into some kind of Trump Cult incapable of disagreeing with him. There are many like me who don't like his style, but results are more important than style.
Well I do hope your around in 2020 to vote. Just keep an open mind. I tried to with this President. I gave up. His triumps are sugar highs. Plus his breakthrough with North Korea, news out of Korea aint good.
The question was not whether he would be a RINO, but whether he would be considered a RINO. Lots of principled conservatives have been so labeled the past few years. It's really rather ironic, because in many ways Trump himself is not really much of a conservative.
This is where you go wrong. Everyone knows Trump was not and is not a conservative. That point has been made a thousand times already. He was a Democrat almost his whole life and everyone knows it. His conservative policies is his way of keeping his promises to those who elected him.
I'm not aware of any conservatives that have been labeled rinos. Many Republicans are, but not conservatives. Despite what some on the left are trying to do, Reagan would never be called a rino by other conservatives and what liberals think regarding this doesn't matter. No politician is 100 percent conservative on every single issue with no wiggle room, no one
He was a Democrat almost his whole life and everyone knows it.
I don't think that is true. In his 1987 interview with Larry King he says he's a republican.
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