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Old 08-03-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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A good rhetorician can "take apart" anyone. Has nothing to do with facts or truth, etc.


It's interesting to note that, while I've heard this collusion thing for nearly two years now, specifics are seldom given. If the election was thrown, what I want is proof of that, not a rhetorical puff of wind about "collusion." What is that exactly? Because you can bet your fanny that if voting machines were rigged or votes were thrown away or votes were altered, we would have heard about that a long time ago. But no, what we hear is this vague accusation of something that is an amorphous blob and is never specifically defined regarding details--"collusion."

The ONLY specific I've heard so far is something to do with a few pimply faced Russians sending out some tweets. Really? That's "collusion"? If people these days are so stupid that they are going to change their vote based on a tweet from a Russian, then they should be declared "slow" and put in a training facility with a box of Depends. They shouldn't be voting. Leave the voting to the big boys and girls.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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Not going to bother to watch the clip. Ususally when someones says that someone took someone else apart, what they mean is that they said something that he agrees with and it makes him happy.

Have fun in your little echo-bubble.
You not only watched the video, but it irritated you so badly that you couldn’t sleep a wink last night.
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I haven't watched the video but unless Smith is actively seeking other employment, he's not going to win against the top rated TV show in all of cable news because top rated means FNC can charge more for advertising. So, Hannity vs Smith would go to Hannity.
Shep Smith is Fox News brass...he’s management. Hannity ISN’T. He’s just talent. Fox has ran off plenty of talent in the last few years. They’ve been EASILY replaced. O’Reilly is just a memory. He was supposedly irreplaceable too. Now, no one cares that he was ever in the building.

In other words, Shep is already winning, so don’t count on his firing anytime soon.
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A good rhetorician can "take apart" anyone. Has nothing to do with facts or truth, etc.


It's interesting to note that, while I've heard this collusion thing for nearly two years now, specifics are seldom given. If the election was thrown, what I want is proof of that, not a rhetorical puff of wind about "collusion." What is that exactly? Because you can bet your fanny that if voting machines were rigged or votes were thrown away or votes were altered, we would have heard about that a long time ago. But no, what we hear is this vague accusation of something that is an amorphous blob and is never specifically defined regarding details--"collusion."

The ONLY specific I've heard so far is something to do with a few pimply faced Russians sending out some tweets. Really? That's "collusion"? If people these days are so stupid that they are going to change their vote based on a tweet from a Russian, then they should be declared "slow" and put in a training facility with a box of Depends. They shouldn't be voting. Leave the voting to the big boys and girls.
Shep basically made Hannity look like a clown. If you didn’t see that, then you didn’t watch it.
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Old 08-03-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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You not only watched the video, but it irritated you so badly that you couldn’t sleep a wink last night.

Shep Smith is Fox News brass...he’s management. Hannity ISN’T. He’s just talent. Fox has ran off plenty of talent in the last few years. They’ve been EASILY replaced. O’Reilly is just a memory. He was supposedly irreplaceable too. Now, no one cares that he was ever in the building.

In other words, Shep is already winning, so don’t count on his firing anytime soon.


Shep basically made Hannity look like a clown. If you didn’t see that, then you didn’t watch it.
So are you still going to claim that "Fox News is the mouthpiece for Trump"?
That would be hard to do, now that you have shown that they are fair and balanced.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This is waaaaaaaay too funny. Whoever compiled this did a helluva good job.

Hannity is such a whiny little douche.

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Old 08-03-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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So are you still going to claim that "Fox News is the mouthpiece for Trump"?
That would be hard to do, now that you have shown that they are fair and balanced.
Amazing isn't it? I've seen Fox host such as Neil Cavuto, Tucker Carlson, Shep Smith, and Laura Ingraham totally disagree with, and heavily criticize Trump. In fact, at one point, and maybe to this day, Trump will only talk to Fox and Friends, and Hannity, because so many others on Fox were criticizing him during, and after the campaign.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Nice. Now, show me an equivalent exchange on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, the NYT, the WaPo, etc. You know, so we can ferret out which MSM outlets create a modicum of pretense toward objective journalism.
^^^^^This. Can't rep you anymore, the system won't allow me.
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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So are you still going to claim that "Fox News is the mouthpiece for Trump"?
That would be hard to do, now that you have shown that they are fair and balanced.
Fox News is still editorially pro-Trump. Sorry.
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Old 08-03-2018, 03:00 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Shep smith told a whopper
Several FBI agents have come forth and admitted surveillance on trump campaign
Thanks for the video whopper
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/09/18/p...ans/index.html

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Old 08-03-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Fox News is still editorially pro-Trump. Sorry.
And much less biased than CNN, MSNBC, etc.

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Old 08-03-2018, 03:18 PM
 
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Fox News is still editorially pro-Trump. Sorry.
Exactly. I think they use Shep Smith as a tool in order to claim a tiny tiny semblance of objectivity. So Shep Smith says things like this for three minutes and the rest of the 24 hours is Hannity style rhetoric. Shep Smith is probably repulsed by them but is soothed by all that money.
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