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Old 08-06-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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American Health Care Act of 2017 (H.R. 1628) often shortened to the AHCA is nicknamed "Trump Care"

just like

Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, often shortened to the Affordable Care Act (ACA is nicknamed "Obama Care"


Being obtuse does not help your case.
When did this pass?
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Old 08-06-2018, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Is the health insurance due to the new introduction of trumpcare better or worse as obamacere? Like your opinion. ... And cheaper? Or not
It's actually pretty clear that Obamacare would have reduced prices if Trump hadn't repealed the Individual Mandate. 1. That's just the way the math of insurance pools works. 2. Take it from Blue Cross' mouth if you don't believe the math: https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/tri...=share_twitter

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DURHAM, N.C. -- North Carolina's largest health insurer says it's cutting some individual premiums for the first time in over a quarter century, but the savings on subsidized "Obamacare'' coverage would have been much larger if Washington had left the law alone.

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Blue Cross says it could have lowered average rates by another 18 percent if Congress and the Trump Administration hadn't eliminated the penalty for people who don't buy health.
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Old 08-06-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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It's actually pretty clear that Obamacare would have reduced prices if Trump hadn't repealed the Individual Mandate.
I know this is what some insurance companies claimed, however it had not reduced premiums since it went into effect. Somehow magic was going to occur?
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Old 08-06-2018, 04:29 PM
 
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Most sensible folk know that Trump don't care.
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Old 08-06-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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ya think?

In 2017, the federal government spent more than $700 billion on Medicare -- a 65 percent increase over just 10 years. Annual costs per capita are expected to increase 4.6 percent per year over the next decade. And the latest Medicare Trustees report, released in June, reported that the Part A Trust Fund, which covers payment for hospital care, will be depleted in 2026. That's three years earlier than previous projections. At that point, workers' payroll taxes earmarked for Medicare will no longer cover the program's costs.


Last month in North Carolina, Democratic State Representative Verla Insko moved to kill her own pro-single-payer bill. An assessment from the state legislature's Fiscal Research Division pegged the cost of single-payer at $70 billion, $42 billion of which would have to come from the state. That latter figure is almost twice the state budget.

In 2014 in Vermont, then-Gov. Peter Shumlin -- a long-time single-payer advocate -- gave up on a single-payer plan after he learned it would cost $4.3 billion annually. That amount was equivalent to 88 percent of the entire state budget. He reluctantly concluded that the proposed funding mechanism for single-payer -- a 12.5 percent state payroll tax and a sliding-scale individual tax of up to 9.5 percent of income "might hurt our economy."

Single-payer's champions generally paint a lovely picture of healthcare utopia. Patients go to see the doctor of their choice whenever they like, get treatment, and leave the clinic without paying a cent. No copays, no deductibles, no cost-sharing, and no referrals -- health care is "free" at the point of service.


In reality, health care doesn't magically become free; people just pay for it outside the doctor's office, in the form of higher taxes.
What's wrong with that? I'd rather my taxes go to provide healthcare for all than funding that insane bloated military budget we somehow manage to pay for.
It's called priorities.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:09 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I think most of America would like to see a "Bluexit" too.

Thing is. I'm betting anyone who ended up there would beg to come back to the real America. When they can't put down 10s of millions of their fellow American's in order to make themselves feel superior, they have nothing to live for.
They would live in Redland for low taxes until they got sick then move to Blueland for medical care. Classic adverse selection.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:23 AM
 
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Links? Of course not....
https://www.aarp.org/politics-societ...-premiums.html


This is one. I'm not your research engine.

Because you are too lazy find out the facts, does not make them fake.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:27 AM
 
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Is the health insurance due to the new introduction of trumpcare better or worse as obamacere? Like your opinion. ... And cheaper? Or not
Worse , will not cover pre existing conditions ,will cost more ,more for prescriptions and definitely more expensive becuase there is no cover of the uninsured.
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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Links? Of course not....
LOL, you have got to be tired of being wrong.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.5122755c0325


https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/o...MbqkMrOdh5bKL/



https://www.aarp.org/politics-societ...-premiums.html
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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Naah; the pay's too good.
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