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Old 08-14-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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You make it sound as if INFOwars is not a legit Company.
The takeaway from Hobby Lobby is that corporate entities have the same rights as individuals when it comes to the First Amendment. No individual has the right to use private platforms to espouse their views, while individuals have the right to exclude others from using their private platforms. The same is true when it comes to private companies.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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You make it sound as if INFOwars is not a legit Company.
You try to make it sound as if Youtube is the government.

INFOwars is trying to find a podium. It hasn't been silenced. Jones violated the terms of service, repeatedly, and lost the podiums he wants. And this thread has been an extended whine-fest, particularly by you, because the podiums Jones wants don't want him.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:36 AM
 
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I don't really agree with a lot of AJs views but to pull him is an act of Fascism.
Again, a poster unable to distinguish between business and government.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:42 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The takeaway from Hobby Lobby is that corporate entities have the same rights as individuals when it comes to the First Amendment. No individual has the right to use private platforms to espouse their views, while individuals have the right to exclude others from using their private platforms. The same is true when it comes to private companies.



Did you forget, both business models are highly regulated by Federal Communication Laws
Hobby Lobby is not in the communications business.
It is a lot more than being hired as an employee.
And it was about not being allowed to deny and shrink rights and liberty of the individual. Not about expanding their rights, over a monopolistic directive.


Colluding, in the evidence there is a Monopoly at play. Anti-Trust Racketeering.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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Colluding, in the evidence there is a Monopoly at play. Anti-Trust Racketeering.
This makes you sound exceedingly liberal.

Have you made any donations to the ACLU?
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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Did you forget, both business models are highly regulated by Federal Communication Laws
Hobby Lobby is not in the communications business.
It is a lot more than being hired as an employee.
And it was about not being allowed to deny and shrink rights and liberty of the individual. Not about expanding their rights, over a monopolistic directive.

Colluding, in the evidence there is a Monopoly at play. Anti-Trust Racketeering.
You're just vomiting up a bunch of non-sequiturs and inapplicable concepts. The FCC, colluding, monopoly, anti-trust, racketeering, etc. - none of these apply to the situation at hand. The Hobby Lobby court did not carve out a "communications business" (whatever the hell that means) exception. It bestowed First Amendment rights on corporations, like Facebook.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This makes you sound exceedingly liberal.

Have you made any donations to the ACLU?



They have created a Cartel. That have all used their powers against another communications business.
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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So wait, Christian baker business owners can deny business but social media platforms can't? Either businesses can deny service or they can't... What is so hard about that?
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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Did you forget, both business models are highly regulated by Federal Communication Laws
Hobby Lobby is not in the communications business.
It is a lot more than being hired as an employee.
And it was about not being allowed to deny and shrink rights and liberty of the individual. Not about expanding their rights, over a monopolistic directive.


Colluding, in the evidence there is a Monopoly at play. Anti-Trust Racketeering.
A lot of gobblygook in that post.

Hobby Lobby is a business. The Supreme Court ruled that the business could claim religious beliefs guided its policies, and that, therefore, its policies were an exercise of freedom of religion.

Youtube is a business. If Hobby Lobby can claim its policies are protected by the First Amendment, then Youtube can do the same.

You are not talking about expanding rights. You are talking about limiting rights. Jones has not lost any rights by the actions of Youtube or Facebook or anyone else. He can spew whatever nonsense he wants, in order to get his audience to buy his goods. He is not entitled to force companies to provide him a podium to do so.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You try to make it sound as if Youtube is the government.

INFOwars is trying to find a podium. It hasn't been silenced. Jones violated the terms of service, repeatedly, and lost the podiums he wants. And this thread has been an extended whine-fest, particularly by you, because the podiums Jones wants don't want him.



You make it sound as if INFOwars was employed by these companies...and he was fired.
YouTube and INFOwars are regulated by the Governments Communications Act.
Then to blatantly create a Cartel, colluding with one another.....To silence another company.
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