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Old 08-06-2018, 08:26 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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These private companies are in effect running public utilities. No, I don't think they should be regulated, nor changed, but it is getting to the point where they have a monopoly on how most people get their information. Search engines, social media, etc. The Left has a monopoly on Tech, and the Media.
What you describe would be closer to an ISP. No one is forcing you to use nor subscribe to social media and. Search engines....etc...

Electricity, gas, sewer etc... Are part of infrastructure that the public for the most part has to share publicly with little choice.

No one is forcing you to use YouTube and the like.... And certainly you tube and the like aren't necessities like power, gas, and water.

The kicker is a lot of people who use this as an argument are against net neutrality.... Lol
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:27 PM
 
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Then you'll love the next 6 years.
You sound desperate.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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And so I have said... You personal views don't matter much... Especially when you can't concretely define what you mean by "pretty damn close"
"Pretty damn close" means the legal difference between YouTube and an actual public utility is all but irrelevant.

More of a technicality than an actual, tangible difference.

Same goes for Facebook and Twitter.

The Left leaning media has figured out that you don't have to violate the first amendment to effectively quash free speech.


Just because YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, etc aren't actual public utilities, doesn't mean it doesn't effectively have the same end result.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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"Pretty damn close" means the legal difference between YouTube and an actual public utility is all but irrelevant.

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The Left leaning media has figured out that you don't have to violate the first amendment to effectively quash free speech.


Just because YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, etc aren't actual public utilities, doesn't mean it doesn't effectively have the same end result.
So again... You think it is pretty damn close to a public utility and I don't. Neither of what our opinions matter. The only thing that matters is that youtube and the like are within their rights.

Thanks for clearing up the obvious.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:36 PM
Status: "81 Years, NOT 91 Felonies" (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Once again, even if it's over 100 posts.

The First Amendment applies ONLY to the government - NOT to private companies.

There's nothing preventing InfoWars itself from setting up its own server and it's own YouTube-like channel devoted to Jones and any other group he approves of.

Private companies or groups have a right to censor their content if that content gives them a bad name. Same thing for traditional businesses employees engaging in grossly hurtful speech, or anything else that is "bad optics" or "bad audio". People can and do refuse to support companies or groups that engage or allow acts or expressions that they don't like. Thus the company or group has the right to protect speech that contravenes the mission, purpose, or image of the group.

Now if they only do it to Michael Savage (who is even worse than AJ).

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Old 08-06-2018, 08:37 PM
 
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"Pretty damn close" means the legal difference between YouTube and an actual public utility is all but irrelevant.

More of a technicality than an actual, tangible difference.

Same goes for Facebook and Twitter.

The Left leaning media has figured out that you don't have to violate the first amendment to effectively quash free speech.


Just because YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, etc aren't actual public utilities, doesn't mean it doesn't effectively have the same end result.
It isn’t the same end result, because those content platforms aren’t State-sanctioned monopolies delivering essential services using vast government-subsidized physical infrastructure that create a high entry barrier to prospective competitors to the point where duplication the underlying essential support for competition is nearly impossible and certainly economically undesirable as a matter of public policy.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:43 PM
 
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You sound desperate.
You wish.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by usayit View Post
What you describe would be closer to an ISP. No one is forcing you to use nor subscribe to social media and. Search engines....etc...

Electricity, gas, sewer etc... Are part of infrastructure that the public for the most part has to share publicly with little choice.

No one is forcing you to use YouTube and the like.... And certainly you tube and the like aren't necessities like power, gas, and water.

The kicker is a lot of people who use this as an argument are against net neutrality.... Lol
Net neutrality is anything but. lol.

While nobody is forced to use Google, Apple, YouTube, MSN, Facebook, Twitter, it is becoming difficult to function without it in today's world. Much like elec, gas, sewer, water, etc. In effect, they are now necessities, and the left has a monopoly on them as the Tech, and Media sectors are almost solely Progressive, and Democrat.
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:00 PM
 
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I don't follow Alex Jones. I have watched a couple of youtube videos when he has interviewed someone I was interested in hearing about.

He is a conspiracy guy not a hate guy. He is about as dangerous as Art Bell.

And even if he was who says googlefacebookapple can define where to draw that line. I don't believe he is inciting violence or the overthrow of the government.

They should back off him. Creates more hate by banning him.
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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It isn’t the same end result, because those content platforms aren’t State-sanctioned monopolies delivering essential services using vast government-subsidized physical infrastructure that create a high entry barrier to prospective competitors to the point where duplication the underlying essential support for competition is nearly impossible and certainly economically undesirable as a matter of public policy.

Incorrect.



They are publicly traded corporations and as such all laws that cover corporations getting involved, meddling, in politics, and especially favoring one political party, apply. The FEC will be knocking on their doors.


Democrats are so worked up over "election meddling" unless of course, it's in their favor.
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