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Old 08-07-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Judging from this thread the primary thing stopping them is that they do not seem to understand how any of this actually works.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_1l316ow8
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You had to google it because you were unaware of any options to youtube which proves my point. If you and your big brain are not aware of other options most others are not either.



The alternatives are not real options.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...video-portals/


If you look at the numbers the biggest alternative to youtube style videos is bing videos which has .9% of the market share. Even Microsoft can't compete with youtube. Someone gets booted off youtube and they lose 98% of their audience. They can't simply flip over to video portal "b" and have business as usual.
Well that is because of marketing and use. Daily Motion is a similar website I know sparingly use.
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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Let's play a quick game. What web site does the above quote come from?

A.) YouTube
B.) Facebook
C.) iTunes
D.) InfoWars

InfoWars: Terms of Service

Specifically, #19 near the end of the page.
What is the point of this posting?
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:47 PM
 
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What is the point of this posting?
It is there so that people who are bad at making logical connections can out themselves by asking "what is the point of this".
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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What is the point of this posting?
You dont need Youtube or Facebook or any of those sites to get your message out.
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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What is the point of this posting?
That IW has the same basic TOS that YouTube, etc. have and that Millie Weaver, referenced in an earlier post, clearly does not understand that. A lot of posters here don't understand that either. These sites like YouTube, City-Data, InfoWars, etc. all have the right to decides who and what gets posted. C-D, for example, censored out part of a post by Weaver that I quoted from her tweet in which she wrongly said that Facebook is not a private company.
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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Of course he does. Everyone does. But, if the platform you choose doesn't want your content? They can refuse it.

They have a right not to sponsor whatever it is you're saying.

Capitalism!

I guess you will be OK when business start refusing services to blacks, gay people, immigrants, etc. because it's their private business. Or maybe your IPS will refuse to give you service because you spend too much time on websites they don't like. Or maybe Walmart and other big stores will align with a certain political party and will refuse to sell to those of the opposite party.

They are private companies, and they can do whatever they want, Right?
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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I guess you will be OK when business start refusing services to blacks, gay people, immigrants, etc. because it's their private business. Or maybe your IPS will refuse to give you service because you spend too much time on websites they don't like. Or maybe Walmart and other big stores will align with a certain political party and will refuse to sell to those of the opposite party.

They are private companies, and they can do whatever they want, Right?
Those are protected classes on the State and Federal level. You can not discriminate against customers because of their protected class. Thanks to the repeal of Net Neutrailty, your ISPs can absolutely throttle service to a particular site.

Do you know what isn’t a protected class? People who spew hate and lies to the stupidest, most gullible people in America.
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:01 PM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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You had to google it because you were unaware of any options to youtube which proves my point. If you and your big brain are not aware of other options most others are not either.



The alternatives are not real options.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...video-portals/


If you look at the numbers the biggest alternative to youtube style videos is bing videos which has .9% of the market share. Even Microsoft can't compete with youtube. Someone gets booted off youtube and they lose 98% of their audience. They can't simply flip over to video portal "b" and have business as usual.
There's actually quite a few alternatives that are not Bing or Microsoft, and do have a lot of people on them. They may not be as big as Twitter, FB, or YT, but they have all recently started, like within the last 2 years. YT wasn't a huge thing for a long time. I opened my first Twitter account in 2009 just to see what it was all about. It was mostly spam bots. Facebook was mostly games, and your "friends" were other people who played the same game as you and sent you daily gifts. None of these were popular right out of the blocks. It takes time to grow.

And for the last statement, I have to agree with what usayit said earlier: If you move to another platform and you lose 98% of your following, you didn't have an online career to begin with.

I would bet that if someone like Pewdiepie, or Dinesh D'Souza, or Tariq Nasheed moved to another platform, their fans would follow them. If anything, going to another platform weeds out the ones who legit have an online career and those who only think that they do. Take away their big social media platform, suddenly no one cares...then it wasn't anything special that they were doing. It is very easy to manipulate Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook to get an audience, VERY easy.

Now, remove that.

If you lose followers, then what you were doing wasn't that great afterall.

If you are someone worth following, you will be followed.
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:05 PM
 
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There's actually quite a few alternatives that are not Bing or Microsoft, and do have a lot of people on them. They may not be as big as Twitter, FB, or YT, but they have all recently started, like within the last 2 years. YT wasn't a huge thing for a long time. It takes time to grow.

And for the last statement, I have to agree with what usayit said earlier: If you move to another platform and you lose 98% of your following, you didn't have an online career to begin with.

I would bet that if someone like Pewdiepie, or Dinesh D'Souza, or Tariq Nasheed moved to another platform, their fans would follow them. If anything, going to another platform weeds out the ones who legit have an online career and those who only think that they do. Take away their big social media platform, suddenly no one cares...then it wasn't anything special that they were doing. It is very easy to manipulate Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook to get an audience, VERY easy.

Now, remove that.

If you lose followers, then what you were doing wasn't that great afterall.

If you are someone worth following, you will be followed.
Agree with this. If one of the popular youtubers move they probably keep a pretty large chunk of their base. But for instance, a toy channel that manages to accumulate lots of views because they manipulate SEO so that their content is likely to be searched for by very small children or dead ended into by someone on an auto play list that is AFK - seriously doubt they would retain much if any.

Course they could figure out how to exploit the SEO of the new site, but that's a lil different.
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