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Old 08-09-2018, 09:04 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Further more, if the kids really want to do something productive for their cause...
They'll pick a day maybe even 2 or 3, get as many like minded individuals together as possible, and skip school for a day or 2 or even 3 to really send a message.

When attendance goes down. So does the funding for the school.

I did it. Hell I got over 100 students to ditch school we went to Albany to the cross gates mall and hung out and watched movies
Seniors Juniors Sophomores Freshmen. Whoever didn't have a vehicle we would pick them up before the bus did.

That's one way to get the school to bend at the knee and listen. Hit them right in the wallet.

That's why some malls in NY require ID and have police in them. To act as "truancy officers"

The assembly held the day we went back was amusing, lots of whining and being told we were selfish and immature. LOL that's rich. Coming from a bunch of irrational fools that wanted to legitimize their prejudices based on how we dressed or for calling BS on their new policies.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:08 AM
 
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perhaps then i should ask what type of dumb s*#t gets triggered by what is on someone elses T shirt.
Ask the dumb s@*ts who wore the shirts for the sole purpose of trying to rile people up & get attention. You know what we call those types, right? Trolls.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:15 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Ask the dumb s@*ts who wore the shirts for the sole purpose of trying to rile people up & get attention. You know what we call those types, right? Trolls.
So you can get away with discrediting and deligitimizing someone's point of view or opinion simply because your feelings are hurt or it doesn't jive with your narrative?


And indoctrination doesn't take place in modern society...

L OH FRIGGING L!

Would that mean I can call unhinged liberals that assemble to protest Donald Trump Trolls? And be justified? Because they're looking to get attention and rile people up? Just curious on how this troll card works...
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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School policy: No clothing depicting weapons.

What students should do: Not wear clothing depicting weapons.

What these students did: Wore clothing depicting weapons.
The shirts did not depict weapons. They depicted shotgun shells, which without the shotgun are only a weapon if you have a really good throwing arm.

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Shirts with graphics of bullets on them after the horrible school shootings that have occurred over the last couple of years? Really? Get the **** out!
The two have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

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When their colleagues at other schools have been gunned down by school shooters?

They are smart to be concerned about kids who'd show up wearing the types of shirts that poster linked to.
No, they would be smart to be concerned about the loner sitting in the back of the class not participating and getting picked on in the hallways. Flipping your lid because of a non-pornographic picture on a t-shirt isn't smart, it's mentally unstable. The teacher has such a severe case of hoplophobia that he reacted irrationally to a picture of an American flag made out of inanimate objects. You apparently suffer from the same condition, which is why you are taking the side of the mental midget in question.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Yes... because teaching kids how to read, write, compute numbers, etc is "indoctrination."

Good grief, this country is doomed.
Yes, the country probably is doomed - because indoctrination is exactly what is happening. Last year my daughter's English teacher ran a syllabus which included economic inequality and how it can be rectified. Tell me, exactly why is economic inequality being included in a 7th grade English class? If it wasn't an attempt to mold the minds of the students into thinking the same way she did, there is absolutely no reason to even address the topic.

I'm sure your response will be "I don't know, ask the teacher," because there is no logical rebuttal that you can make and you typically refuse to actually address such topics when presented with them.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: PSL
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This controlling the narrative and PC culture is hysterical.

If you're a man or woman and believe in traditional family values you're discredited and deligitimized on the basis of misogyny and support toxic patriarchy.

If you believe in national sovereignty and border security, you're discredited and deligitimized as a xenophobic racist.

If you believe marriage is between man and woman only, you're discredited and deligitimized as a homophobic bigot.

If you believe in the right to keep and bear arms, you're discredited and deligitimized as a child murdering NRA member who's blood soaked hands are responsible for the actions of a murderous psychopath.

So how does the Troll card work? When you don't have a legitimate argument and believe emotions/feelings > facts logic and critical thinking?

You just get to label someone as a troll because your feelz?
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:34 AM
 
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Will not help, your original point flew so far over that posters head, they'll never understand what you attempted to ask, hence their response...
Another right wing Snowflake issue I see. Who gets triggered by a mistaken dress code violation that was corrected by the school board almost immediately? Who thinks the world is ending because of that issue? That's right, it is the Righty Snowflakes.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:43 AM
 
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No, they would be smart to be concerned about the loner sitting in the back of the class not participating and getting picked on in the hallways. Flipping your lid because of a non-pornographic picture on a t-shirt isn't smart, it's mentally unstable. The teacher has such a severe case of hoplophobia that he reacted irrationally to a picture of an American flag made out of inanimate objects. You apparently suffer from the same condition, which is why you are taking the side of the mental midget in question.
This exactly!

The kids I stood up for, the "nerds" "loners" "dorks" were the silent ones who either dressed differently or were not part of a clique or the "cool kids club".
They were smart, As and Bs but we're tormented by the same dudes on my football team. I had ways of dealing with them to get them to knock the crap off.

The silent ones who were ostracized for being different were self loathing because of the torment they were subject to that went unpunished because of 0 tolerance policy. That and they had alot of pent up rage. If they had a younger sibling, the chances of them taking it out on their younger sibling were quite high.

If they swung on their bully they'd be equally guilty as their bully or worse. Since teachers turned a blind eye to a "jock/preps" bullying. They're on the football team don't you know they're a protected class? We need that state title... just deal with being shoved into a locker called a f*a*g* and worse. Put up with it until the season ends.

Nah. That didn't fly with me.
Torment that geek dork nerd etc if a stern talking didn't end it... a torn ACL from a bad hit in a hitting drill sure would. Or we could square up off school grounds.
But since my methods of dealing with bullies defied the good feels... I was subject to being expelled even for actions that didn't occur on school property.

That's okay though, I brought those outcasts weirdos dorks nerds geeks to parties up in the woods. At first it was a 1 hand washes the other deal. You help me with math. I'll protect you. Then I got to know these kids and they grew on me. I became legitimate friends with them and have remained so to this day. Some handle my investments, some give me legal advice, some are engineers. They're living successful lives while their bullies are stuck back in the small town relishing the glory days, working crap jobs, screaming at a TV when a football game is on.

Not sorry to say, 0 tolerance doesn't work. It just creates victims. Just like how the same who endorse 0 tolerance absolutely despise stand your ground.
you should not have any right to defend yourself as you see fit as an independent individual. You need to continue on from highschool and college and run to an adult for that.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: My House
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If you go back and look at the dress code for Lodi, it says the administration can pretty much choose to ban anything that is disruptive. And, it also says that depictions of guns (and various other potentially problematic themes), along with anything that references the themes mentioned violate the dress code.

So, the teacher wasn't far out in left field objecting and sending the kids to the office.

We know he said they'd have to write a paper for disagreeing, but is that how it went down, really?

I'd like to hear what he says happened. I mean, if I was teaching and sent kids out for a dress code violation and they got all mouthy with me over it, I'd probably tell them they might have to write a paper, too.

Because teachers are enforcing the rules as they see them. It's up to the administration to make a final decision and I think they went with "this is okay to wear," but I'm really curious about why. If I worked at a place that made rules that seem pretty clear, then refused to enforce them, I'd go look for another job.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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Another right wing Snowflake issue I see. Who gets triggered by a mistaken dress code violation that was corrected by the school board almost immediately? Who thinks the world is ending because of that issue? That's right, it is the Righty Snowflakes.
I feel like people are more bothered by a dress code violation issue (these happen all the time in high schools) than over actual issues that matter, like gun violence in schools.

Which is really weird.
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