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Old 08-09-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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actually, the Nazis had a 25 point Socialist platform of national healthcare, national education and nationalization of the industry, wages and jobs ......Iran has no Democracy platform......so for the Nazis it's more than just the name.
No, the Nazis were never socialist. They could have been part socialist but Hitler made sure the party was the the party of big business once he took over.

 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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If Alexandria Ocasio Cortez did a rally and said we need National Socialism you know she’d get a lot of cheers .
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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What you are missing here is that many hardliners like the OP could not care less about democracy as we have known it here in the USA. They fall in lockstep with Trump and share his admiration of dictators and despots like Putin, Jong Un and Duterte.



didn't FDR and Truman admired Stalin.....didn't Nixon admired Mao.......didn't Bill Clinton admired Boris.....didn't Obama admired the Cuban dictator by going to Cuba to watch a baseball game and eat hot dogs with him?




so sitting down with dictators with nukes to avoid war is now admiring them?




you Trump haters get more silly by the day.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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No, the Nazis were never socialist. They could have been part socialist but Hitler made sure the party was the the party of big business once he took over.





can you bring facts and data to back your claims....I actually put the 25 point Nazis socialist platform.


So national healthcare, national education, the government guarantee wages and jobs and nationalize the production of the nation is now a right wing thing? LOL




Those are the talking points of the left since I can remember.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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can you bring facts and data to back your claims....I actually put the 25 point Nazis socialist platform.


So national healthcare, national education, the government guarantee wages and jobs and nationalize the production of the nation is now a right wing thing? LOL




Those are the talking points of the left since I can remember.
They won’t answer that of course .
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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actually, the Nazis had a 25 point Socialist platform of national healthcare, national education and nationalization of the industry, wages and jobs ......Iran has no Democracy platform......so for the Nazis it's more than just the name.
The very definition of socialism is government owned and operated means of production, while in Nazi Germany the means of production remained in private hands.

Iran does hold democratic elections.

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Those are the talking points of the left since I can remember.
When did anyone in US propose nationalizing the means of production?
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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And Iran is a democracy.

Using your logic: Iran = USA.

You can take one single steak, cut it in half, gives it to two different cooks, and I guarantee you they will not taste the same. Get my drift?
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No one with an understanding of how individual freedoms are monitored by impartial observers would call Iran a "democracy"; there are only 15-20 of those on the entire globe, though fortunately, the number appears to be poised to expand rapidly over the next 10-30 years,

And all of those nations have relatively free and open economies -- something the Leftists who seek to dominate this site hate and fear.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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The very definition of socialism is government owned and operated means of production, while in Nazi Germany the means of production remained in private hands.

Iran does hold democratic elections.

So national healthcare, national education, the government guarantee wages and jobs and nationalize the production of the nation is now a right wing thing? LOL




Some Nazi German production remained in private hands if you were in the Nazi party and those were a few.....how many businesses in Germany got confiscated and nationalized?




Nazis were socialists racists don't confuse that with Stalin's communism.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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So national healthcare, national education, the government guarantee wages and jobs and nationalize the production of the nation is now a right wing thing? LOL
Let me repeat in case it sinks in the 2nd time:

The definition of socialism is government owned and operated means of production, while in Nazi Germany the means of production remained in private hands.

As for health care, Germany has had universal HC since 1883, not exactly a Nazi invention. Schools? Public schools goes back even further, as does in the US. Having pubic education does not mean the country is socialist. You'd be better informed if you had attended one.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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and where do the left and liberals gets their talking points from??....... especially the ones that lives on both coasts that think they know better than the rest of the nation because they live by the ocean? please enlighten us.
We don't need talking points. We can think for ourselves.
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