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Israel is tiny compared to the whole Arab world. BTW, there is a rather large Arab Israeli community that has been granted citizenship and who have members in the Israeli parliament.
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Originally Posted by Milky Way Resident
The Arabs were the ones who decided to attack Israel and they did so multiple times. They are the ones who need to make peace with Israel.
What do you mean "flooding a country illegally"? Jews have been in that part of the world for aeons.
The size of Israel is irrelevant. There were over 700,000 Arab Palestinians in Palestine who lost their homes. The overwhelming majority of those people didn’t attack ANYONE. Telling them to go to another country is illegal also.
It is illegal to ethnically cleansed an area and deny people access to their homes.
And Jews aren’t the only people that were in Palestine for “aeons.” At no point before 1947 did Jews ever outnumber Arabs in Palestine. Arab towns and villages had been there for centuries.
Interesting. On the one hand, we celebrate Columbia University for "recognizing" a Palestinian state, and on the other hand, we castigate Trump for referring to Taiwan as a sovereign state.
In this world of inconsistency where some states get "recognized" and others do not, can someone explain the rules where"recognition" are concerned? Because Palestine as a separate state doesn't seem so different from Catalonia, South Ossetia, Basque Country, Flanders, Normandy, Taiwan, Tibet, Kashmir or Canton of Jura.
So what are the rules for recognition, since we are so duty bound to recognize Jordanian exiles as some new state, but not so duty bound to recognize the dozens of other separatist/autonomous movements throughout the world?
Three quarters of a million Arabs lived in the British Mandate in dozens upon dozens of cities, towns and small villages. They ran from their homes during a war and weren’t allowed to return to them. That’s illegal. It was then and it is now.
I’m not here to cast aspersions on Israel, but I’m not gonna just gloss over an ethnic cleansing on a massive scale. I didn’t excuse the Europeans for their ethnic cleansing of Europe’s Jewry and I won’t ignore the fact that Israel carried out a massive anti Arab operation that disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of people....the overwhelming majority of who were non combatants.
Facts.
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Do you ignore the ethnic cleansing of Jews from their Arab neighbors and just about every other Muslim nation on Earth or is that justified in your mind?
Do you ignore the ethnic cleansing of Jews from their Arab neighbors and just about every other Muslim nation on Earth or is that justified in your mind?
2. I fail to see how a defensive statement about the behavior of others justifies what DesertDetroiter details. The West Bank and Gaza have no equivalents in the world today.
Moreover, the vast majority of Jewish pundits and org in the West, outside of Israel, loudly advocate for multiculturalism while championing the ethnostate of Israel. It follows that they should not be allowed to indulge in political hypocrisy. Israel should offer all Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank Jewish conversion, and then allow them to mix it up in Israel.
Columbia may be doing this out of spite, given that The Jewish authorities refused to recognize the Jewishness of a large number of Latino Colombian Jewish converts in the past. The rejection had obvious racial overtones.
This means about as much...as winning the Popular vote while losing the Electoral. It's like winning the special olympics. It means nothing and in the end...you're still "special".
I hope this leads to more countries officially recognizing Palestine as a sovereign state...its beyond time to do so.
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That’s a good thing. The Arabs of Palestine deserve a homeland of their own inside the former British Mandate just like they’d had for cewiatnturies before they were victims of ethnic cleansing.
I have an idea; carve a few such homelands out of the numerous, land-rich Arab countries. Almost all countries have huge uninhabited and thinly inhabited areas:
Egypt
Libya
Jordan
Syria
Iraq
Kuwait
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Qatar
Oman
Yemen
Algeria
Tunisia
Algeria
Morocco
Sudan
Somalia
And I'm sure I've left out some
Israel would gladly furnish technical, agricultural and water engineering assistance. Why is the world's only Jewish state, and area the size of New Jersey on everyone's target? Of those countries it's the only one that's productive. The others are "gas stations" or are otherwise destitute.
The Jews could have chosen to remain in DP camps in Europe, to make everyone's lives miserable. They didn't.
Interesting. On the one hand, we celebrate Columbia University for "recognizing" a Palestinian state, and on the other hand, we castigate Trump for referring to Taiwan as a sovereign state.
In this world of inconsistency where some states get "recognized" and others do not, can someone explain the rules where"recognition" are concerned? Because Palestine as a separate state doesn't seem so different from Catalonia, South Ossetia, Basque Country, Flanders, Normandy, Taiwan, Tibet, Kashmir or Canton of Jura.
So what are the rules for recognition, since we are so duty bound to recognize Jordanian exiles as some new state, but not so duty bound to recognize the dozens of other separatist/autonomous movements throughout the world?
The "rules" are that the entities deserving "recognition" are violent entities harmful to the West. Taiwan and Israel are productive while the others are at best leaches on the world.
Interesting. On the one hand, we celebrate Columbia University for "recognizing" a Palestinian state, and on the other hand, we castigate Trump for referring to Taiwan as a sovereign state.
Colombia, the country. Not Columbia, the university.
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