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Old 08-09-2018, 05:19 PM
 
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The Constitution is inherently flawed and no one wanted it. What some of you as the singular vision of the framers is really just a compromise to get the slave states to join the union. That, alone, makes it outdated.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:20 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Thank God, and the two who wrote that article are a great illustration of what we can expect from Democrats if they get to choose the next Supreme Court Justice. No thanks.
Dilly-Dilly!
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Ever heard of "Amendments"?
Amendments are effectively impossible in 2018. More evidence that the constitution is outdated.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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Outdated? In terms of the wording, yes. There are many areas where the wording could be updated to reflect the 2010s.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:25 PM
 
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I'm good with it.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Constitution is inherently flawed and no one wanted it. What some of you as the singular vision of the framers is really just a compromise to get the slave states to join the union. That, alone, makes it outdated.



When did you consent to be governed by it?
Government is governed by the document, not the people.
Once you consent to be governed, that is.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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He doesn’t have that kind of power. What he has is power over the executive branch, which gives modern presidents a whole lot of power to be sure, but he can’t just decide to not listen. Congress still has the power of the purse and the power of impeachment.
A potus has the power that all would be dictators have. Control of the military. If he can find loyal Generals he can create a coup.

The other 2 branches be damned.

Now I do not think this is likely but I fail to see how the constitution prevents it from happening.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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By Meagan Day and Bhaskar Sunkara
Ms. Day is a staff writer at Jacobin, where Mr. Sunkara is editor.

we need to start working toward the establishment of a new political system that truly represents Americans.
I think that the framers were aware that the concept of "Americans" could change over time, as we have seen. I believe that their intention was that the concept of "America" would not. A quick visit to the Jacobin website will tell you all you need to know. These folks don't like a whole lot of things.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Behind enemy lines
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He doesn’t have that kind of power. What he has is power over the executive branch, which gives modern presidents a whole lot of power to be sure, but he can’t just decide to not listen. Congress still has the power of the purse and the power of impeachment.

You're absolutely right; the president does only have power over the executive branch. But, let's consider that for a moment...where are all of the capabilities as far as force headquartered? The executive branch. Congress doesn't have any type of military force accountable to them, nor does the judicial branch. For the sake of argument, we'll discount their in-house security forces (US Capitol Police and Supreme Court Police/Security forces). Even if you give the USSC the Marshal's Service, that's still a very limited number of guns. Any actual, motivated dictator will repel them in an instant.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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We should “provide in our constitution for its revision at stated periods.” “Each generation” should have the “solemn opportunity” to update the constitution “every nineteen or twenty years,” thus allowing it to “be handed on, with periodical repairs, from generation to generation, to the end of time.”

Thomas Jefferson

Good enough for me. Originalists are full of it.
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