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As much as I have a distaste for Mormonism, if you gave me the choice of being ruled by a bunch of Mormons, or by a bunch of Trumplings, I would choose the Mormons in a heartbeat.
You can LOL and insult me to your heart's content if it makes you happy, but the bottom line is that I wanted a President who was neither crooked nor crazy, and neither Hillary nor Trump qualified. I figured a decent human being at the helm would be better than either of the other two options, particularly since our government is not an autocracy (though sometimes it appears to be getting close). Of course I care about a candidate's position on the issues, but I've never found one yet that I agree with 100%. At least with someone like McMullin, we wouldn't be dealing with the situation we've now got on the US - Mexico border.
Actually, I did vote for Bernie in the primaries and would have voted for him in the general election had he made it that far. To be perfectly honest, I really, really wish I could have voted for Jon Huntsman, Jr. In my opinion, he would have made a fantastic president.
is not an insult.....you said you voted for Mcmullin and didn't know or care about his stance on issues. You voted for him because you hate Trump?...that is a clueless voter. What is Mcmullin stance on the border and illegal immigration because it has been a mess before Trump went to the W.H.........you said that with McMullin, we wouldn't be dealing with the situation we have now on the US-Mexico border. What exactly would Mcmullin do in the border and dealing with illegal immigration since you haven't got a clue what he stands for but gave him your vote?
I don't love Trump, He wasn't my first or second choice when the 2016 primaries started but on the issues on immigration enforcement, taxes, the Supreme Court and fixing our bad trade deals and scaling back on endless wars and endless occupations and making NATO and the EUROPEAN countries pay most of their defense and don't depend so much on the American Taxpayers, I support Trump on most issues.
you are all over the place.....you voted for Bernie in the primaries, a socialist that praised Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez and once supported the system in Venezuela until it went bankrupt (he doesn't mentions Venezuela anymore) ....then you voted for McMullen, who is the opposite of Bernie and then you say you would have voted for Jon Huntsman Jr. who is another version of Mitt Romney (but no so fake or that much of a corporate sellout like Mitt).....so basically you don't care to get informed on the issues that affect millions of Americans from taxes, Obamacare, illegal immigration, bad trade deals and endless wars and endless occupations....you just vote on the candidate that seems nice to you on tv and is polite in front of the cameras and damn the issues.....that's what I call a clueless voter.
Okay, so I'm a Mormon living in Utah, and I've got to say (unfortunately), that in my own experience, most Mormons will vote Republican regardless of who the candidate may be. Most of the Mormons I know -- and I suspect I know a lot more of them than most people posting on this thread -- are pretty much okay with Trump. They get almost all of their information on what's going on with this presidency from Faux News. It's really sad, because if they actually stopped to think about it, they would realize that Trump doesn't stand for any of their values. Even though the LDS Church never actually endorses a specific candidate or even a particular party, most Mormons have this crazy notion that "a good Mormon" must be a Republican and that any Mormon who votes Democrat is not really "a good Mormon" but rather, some kind of heretic.
The funny thing is that if Romney had defeated Obama in 2012 Trump most likely would not have run and we would not be having this conversation.
Regarding Mormons. From the ones I know they do understand what Trump is about. But in 2016 what was the alternative? Trump gives lip service to their values at the very least. His SCOTUS picks are in line with their values. Whatever you want to say about Trump, Hillary and probably whoever runs in 2020 for the dems are much worse options for Mormons than Trump.
Okay, so I'm a Mormon living in Utah, and I've got to say (unfortunately), that in my own experience, most Mormons will vote Republican regardless of who the candidate may be. Most of the Mormons I know -- and I suspect I know a lot more of them than most people posting on this thread -- are pretty much okay with Trump. They get almost all of their information on what's going on with this presidency from Faux News. It's really sad, because if they actually stopped to think about it, they would realize that Trump doesn't stand for any of their values. Even though the LDS Church never actually endorses a specific candidate or even a particular party, most Mormons have this crazy notion that "a good Mormon" must be a Republican and that any Mormon who votes Democrat is not really "a good Mormon" but rather, some kind of heretic.
you can't be a Mormon and then support a party that endorses and supports abortions on demand and gay marriage and supports a party that believes the welfare state can replace the father in the family and doesn't demand personal responsibility and rather creates a victimhood culture that is everybody's fault except the person and that the big welfare state will solve it.
maybe they don't like Trump's liberal lifestyle and foul language and his infidelities (no different than John F Kennedy and Bill Clinton) but on the issues about the Supreme Court and taxes and the 2nd amendment and key issues about abortion, Mormons are more close to Trump's politics by far than any Democrat especially now when the democrat party is doubling down going hard left which is a no-no for Mormons.
If you are a PRO-LIFE Democrat you are not welcome in the party at the national level.....the democrat party has pushed away Democrats who are pro-life......on that issue alone they pushed away the majority of the Mormons.....the same with Gay Marriage and having federal activist judges pushed that down their throats.
Mormons in Utah have always been Republican on the issues and so far Trump has governed as a Republican regardless of his personal character flaws.
you can't be a Mormon and then support a party that endorses and supports abortions on demand and gay marriage and supports a party that believes the welfare state can replace the father in the family and doesn't demand personal responsibility and rather creates a victimhood culture that is everybody's fault except the person and that the big welfare state will solve it.
Sorry to have to break this to you, but I can and will be anything I want.
is not an insult... you said you voted for Mcmullin and didn't know or care about his stance on issues... that's what I call a clueless voter.
I'm pretty sure most people would agree that calling someone "clueless" is, in fact, an insult. But don't worry; if it helps your ego to put me down, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Oh, and by the way, I never said I didn't know what his stance on the issues was. How you came up with that nonsense is beyond me. I voted for him despite his position on certain issues, because I felt that he would be a better president than either Trump or Hillary.
Like so many other religious leaders of the Second Great Awakening, Joseph Smith was fascinated by the idea of collectivism. In 1831 — 5 days after calling the first bishop — he gave a revelation which declared every member should be “equal according to his family, according to his circumstances and his wants and needs” (D&C 42:30). To accomplish this, Joseph instituted the United Order, a system under which members were required to deliver their property to the Bishop who would then redistribute “stewardships” according to the wants and needs of all the members.
As with socialism, the goal of the United Order was equality through redistribution of wealth and elimination of economic classes. LDS scripture likewise supports this economic vision.
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