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Old 08-18-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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I know Trump is being a **** about this and punishing/humiliating his critics with revoking their clearance. On the other hand what is the big deal that it is revoked if they are no longer employed or holding the position that requires it ? They need not be silenced, they can continue to express their opinions if they choose to. Those who still have their clearance may feel silenced but they still risk losing their job if they criticize him.
As for history and all this information/wisdom Brennan has that will be lost etc, c'mon. Intelligence gathering is so big and so cutting edge what he knows will be so old very quickly.
I think it is big drama over nothing. Who cares if Patraeus lost his clearance? or Susan Rice?



This is an issue much bigger than who has a security clearance and who doesn't.
This is about Trump abusing his office to punish those who oppose him. This is what dictators do. We don't live in a dictatorship - yet.
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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This is an issue much bigger than who has a security clearance and who doesn't.
This is about Trump abusing his office to punish those who oppose him. This is what dictators do. We don't live in a dictatorship - yet.
Brennan has no power to oppose him. He can continue to do whatever it is he was doing.
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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Because when there is a crisis some departments call back people with past knowledge of situation and can have input on how to best resolve it, they need the clearance to be briefed on sensitive plans, that's why.
And if that rare occasion ever came up and Brennan is the one and only person in the country that knew something we needed he could easily be given clearance again right?
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Brennan has no power to oppose him. He can continue to do whatever it is he was doing.

Never said he did. What's your point?
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Because when there is a crisis some departments call back people with past knowledge of situation and can have input on how to best resolve it, they need the clearance to be briefed on sensitive plans, that's why.

I agree that's the reason he should have been allowed to keep it, but it's not like this administration was going to ever ask his advice on anything anyway. So really nothing is lost.

At this point the move was clearly symbolic.
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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And if that rare occasion ever came up and Brennan is the one and only person in the country that knew something we needed he could easily be given clearance again right?
Yes he could.
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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This is an issue much bigger than who has a security clearance and who doesn't.
This is about Trump abusing his office to punish those who oppose him. This is what dictators do. We don't live in a dictatorship - yet.



Having a security clearance is a privilege, nota right


If Brennan wants to go on MSNBC every day and spread total lies and uneverifisble claims without any proof. Then his consequence is losing that privilege
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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You should care. It's not intended for to be used by a spoiled child to quiet a person they don't agree with, the power is to strip it for people who misuse the power and reveal classified info not to go after your enemies. Even Nixon would not stoop so low.
The one and only reason for Brennan having security clearance is to benefit the United States of America, if Brennan wants to use that clearance to benefit himself or MSNBC he's not helping this country therefore he doesn't need clearance.
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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This is an issue much bigger than who has a security clearance and who doesn't.
This is about Trump abusing his office to punish those who oppose him. This is what dictators do. We don't live in a dictatorship - yet.
No it's not, nobody has punished or silenced Brennan, he's still 100% free to speak his mind and speak out against the President. He doesn't need security clearance to do that.
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Old 08-18-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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Thousands of people use their clearance to gain other employment prior to or upon leaving government service. It is a huge plus for a company to hire an employee that has already undergone the full review and only pay to keep active. This is monetization of that clearance and it is common. It doesn't change the fact that you are still held to the requirements once you work elsewhere. Brennan can't divulge TS info because he is out.
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