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Old 08-15-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Originally Posted by TheBaldBlur View Post
They CAN have a pink and blue birthday cake, they just don't have the right to force Masterpiece make it.

You have missed the entire point of the CO law on discrimination against persons based on their sexual orientation. They DO have the right to ask the baker to make the cake. If he refuses based on their sexual orientation, they have the right so sue him (or in this case file a complaint with the state).
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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As I said before...



Usually when you call to have a cake made, or go into a bakery to have a cake made, you're asked if the cake is for a special occasion. It was, and so the person said what the occasion was.
So what occasion was stated?
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:20 PM
 
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So what occasion was stated?
As I said in my first post, and quoted in my other post...

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The person was celebrating 4 years since their transition, and told the baker the reason for the cake.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Here is the actual complaint.
https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content...-Complaint.pdf
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I believe the baker is fully within his rights.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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They lost because the state commission screwed up. I think even bureaucrats understand how to make things right this time. I am sure they crossed every i and dotted every t.
Why do you think they should win?
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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They CAN have a pink and blue birthday cake, they just don't have the right to force Masterpiece make it.



Alex Jones CAN broadcast his message via internet, he just doesn't have the right to force Youtube to do it.


Or so we were told in the Alex Jones thread about the rights of private businesses.
Exactly. The left made it clear in that thread that a private business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. Yeah, see how fast that tune changed.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Why do you think they should win?
Because it IS illegal in Colorado to discriminate against persons based on their sexual orientation. It's quite simple.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:32 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I'm not certain why anybody who identifies as LGBT would want to go to a baker known to be homophobic/transphobic unless they are trying to create a case. While you and I strongly disagree on LGBT issues, in the current social climate I wish the couple would just go elsewhere. I worry that a SCOTUS ruling against a Christian baker at the current time, with tensions as high as they are over cultural issues, could be the catalyst of mass unrest and civil war in a country that is still struggling to come to terms with legal gay marriage.
That isn't what this is, and you know it full well. Nobody is "homophobic/transphobic." But Leftists like to use such terms because it deflects from the real issue. You just don't like religious liberty. You think everyone should subscribe to your religion.

"Identity politics?" Yeah ...I'd say so.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:36 PM
 
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As I said in my first post, and quoted in my other post...
So were they discriminated against because of their sexual orientation? Do you think he'd discriminate against them if they wanted a pink or blue birthday cake? Or was the theme rejected?

What about if a White person walked into a store and wanted the baker to bake him a cake celebrating White Nationalism. If the baker refused to bake the cake is the baker discriminating against him because a)he's white or b)the theme of the cake?
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