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Old 08-16-2018, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Security clearances should expire when a person leaves the job.

No exceptions.
If they go to a new job in a few weeks or months then what’s the point.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:28 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If they go to a new job in a few weeks or months then what’s the point.



All their buddies in high places can and do still tell the secrets to them.... LEAKS!
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I will add this in as well, for those who say security clearances should be eternal...

Trump-supporting Pentagon analyst stripped of security clearance after Stefan Halper complaints

A Trump-supporting Pentagon analyst was stripped of his security clearance by Obama-appointed officials after he complained of questionable government contracts to Stefan Halper, the FBI informant who spied on the Trump presidential campaign.

Adam Lovinger, a 12-year strategist in the Pentagon’s Office of Net Assessment, complained to his bosses about Halper contracts in the fall of 2016, his attorney, Sean M. Bigley, told The Washington Times.

On May 1, 2017, his superiors yanked his security clearance and relegated him to clerical chores.


That first paragraph is pretty interesting.
It’s only interesting if you are a conspiracy theorist, his clearance was revoked by his superiors not the president, are you going to point out each instance as proof that Trump was right.

Did you fail to notice that this was in 2017 and Sessions was in charge. So what did the IG investigation turn up?
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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Security clearances should expire when a person leaves the job.

No exceptions.

They are supposed to. I have a SC, and if I leave my job and go to another company, that other company has to do another SF86 on me....and until it comes back approved I cannot do anything...
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:29 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The Dunderheads will ignore every bit of this and still support Brennan no matter what. They have been trained like Pavlov's dog.
Having a conversation about when all security clearances should end is a worthy - but different - conversation.


Basically, Trump ended someone's clearance because (a) he didn't like what they said about him and (b) because he was part of the Russia investigation.


Two completely different things.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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Is it written anywhere in that memo that only republican security holders should be expunged?

There are many levels of 'security clearances'. I had to sign one once at my job. I've been retired for three years. Should I be scrubbed? Certainly. I have nothing to do with my job anymore, and frankly, can't even remember what the security clearance pertained to.

There's no way the cheeto can get around this. He used this action as retribution. He even said it in the WSJ interview (which I believe was last night).

He's a schoolyard bully.
What are you whining about? Trump is doing what Brennan suggested.

By the way - did you see post #3? Security clearance removal was directly related to political affiliation.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:41 AM
 
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Having a conversation about when all security clearances should end is a worthy - but different - conversation.


Basically, Trump ended someone's clearance because (a) he didn't like what they said about him and (b) because he was part of the Russia investigation.


Two completely different things.
No he ended it because he was leaking stuff he wasn't supposed to which would happen to anyone. Wake up and take the partisan glasses off.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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It’s only interesting if you are a conspiracy theorist, his clearance was revoked by his superiors not the president, are you going to point out each instance as proof that Trump was right.

Did you fail to notice that this was in 2017 and Sessions was in charge. So what did the IG investigation turn up?
Sessions had nothing to do with it.

Brennan was monetizing his clearance and is adversarial to a sitting president... and he has lied in the past. He deserved it.

This guy asked questions about someone who was in the protected class. He did not deserve it.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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Nov. 2013...

W.H. looks to scrub clearance list

In a directive obtained by POLITICO, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper questioned the booming rolls of security-clearance holders. At last count, more than 4.9 million people held clearances, of whom over 1.4 million were cleared for access at the “Top Secret” level....

“I write to express my concern about threats to national security resulting from the increasing number of people with eligibility for access to classified national security information, particularly Top Secret (TS) and Top Secret/Secure Compartmented Information (TS/SCI),” Clapper wrote in a three-page memo, dated Oct. 31 and cited at a Senate hearing Wednesday.

Clapper asked agencies to perform a top-to-bottom scrub of the teeming rolls of people authorized to access classified information and to remove anyone deemed not to have a so-called need to know.


No worries Mr. Clapper, Trump is on top of it.

5 million security clearances??
Being concerned with the ease of getting security clearance doesn't mean you support the President's petty, childish spiteful actions.

The President clearly stated he took the clearance away from Brennan because he didn't like the Russian investigation.

That's not a good reason...yes later Sanders quoted 'erratic' tweets as an excuse for revoking the clearance -- now isn't that ironic.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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If they go to a new job in a few weeks or months then what’s the point.


Then that new company has to do another SF86.....
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