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Old 08-16-2018, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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https://www.illinoispolicy.org/shell...-pension-debt/

https://www.city-journal.org/html/ch...orm-16102.html

Wonder if it will work out and it will be a miracle for Chicago. The plan is to borrow 10 billion at 5.5% interest rate and expect it to grow at 7.5% annually.

I guess that the compounded 7.5% returns will cause unfunded pension liabilities to plummet and all will be well.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:04 PM
 
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Thats utterly moronic. If they could get a reliable 7.5% annually, they wouldnt loan it to the city, they would invest it themselves. Jesus. Its like watching your parents fall for a get rich quick scheme.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:05 PM
 
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This has blown up into a mess so many times I can not believe anyone still suggests it. The idea is for it to blow up after the currently elected officials are gone.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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This is the financial equivalent of stringing two guitar amplifiers together and claiming that's free energy.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Lol!!!!!!!!!

And when the returns don't materialize --- they won't. We hope there is a Democratic Prez to bail us out...
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Former Gov Christie Whitman (NJ) tired this back in the 90's.

Guess what, it didn't work and the pension reserves today are a mess.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:36 PM
 
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https://www.illinoispolicy.org/shell...-pension-debt/

https://www.city-journal.org/html/ch...orm-16102.html

Wonder if it will work out and it will be a miracle for Chicago. The plan is to borrow 10 billion at 5.5% interest rate and expect it to grow at 7.5% annually.

I guess that the compounded 7.5% returns will cause unfunded pension liabilities to plummet and all will be well.
Who sold them that receipe for disaster?
Bernie Maddof?
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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Since this is such a sure-fire investment opportunity, why doesn't Illinois just cover all of its liabilities at once?

https://www.illinoispolicy.org/repor...s-in-illinois/

With a 2% margin, Illinois could borrow $10.15 trillion, invest it for a year, pay back the money and use the capital gains to cover all of its accumulated liability of $203 billion. Why play small ball?
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:36 AM
 
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So we all agree this is not a good idea -- lol.

YES - -we finally agree on something...lol
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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Thats utterly moronic. If they could get a reliable 7.5% annually, they wouldnt loan it to the city, they would invest it themselves. Jesus. Its like watching your parents fall for a get rich quick scheme.
It's the only Playbook they have -- this "plan" has been tried several times in the past.
Yes - it is moronic and it's a proven failure.
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