Here's The Bill For Democratic Socialism (enemies, how much, companies, party)

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Javacoffee

Common sense doesn't alter the truth. It's a fallacy that the working poor are living it up.

I didn't say they're living it up. I said they're living beyond their means, which is true.

[Javacoffee]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

I didn't say they're living it up. I said they're living beyond their means, which is true.

Of course, of course. Shame on them for not banking their paycheck by living under a bridge.

[EastwardBound]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

I didn't say they're living it up. I said they're living beyond their means, which is true.

This is true for many who cannot get ahead, including working poor but many across all income levels. These people spend as they want, not saving and not planning or being able to control their own money. They then wonder why they aren't getting ahead.

People have a right to do what they want, but they don't have a right to claim they are victims afterwards.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Our schools are socialized. Are Republicans deciding we need to end the public school system? Should all roads have tolls on them?

Non-sequitur

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Non-sequitur

Everyone supports Socialist programs when it benefits them.

[Javacoffee]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Everyone supports Socialist programs when it benefits them.

No. People ponder socialism when capitalism doesn't benefit them any longer.

You can't fight an enemy you don't understand. Don't label them as lazy bums and then reject their concerns. The more we do that, the more powerful they become as more frustrated workers join their ranks. The evidence of that is in front of us, and has been for a long time.

And once again, I am not a socialist. I reject it completely. I will fight to my death it's rise in our country. But if we think it can't overtake America in time because (fill-in-the-blank), we're nuts.

[PCALMike]

Originally Posted by Javacoffee

And once again, I am not a socialist. I reject it completely. I will fight to my death it's rise in our country.

Socialism means workers owning the means of production. Not the government. I am just curious, why will you fight to your death to prevent workers owning the means of production? Are you a member of the working class yourself?

[sammy87]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Our schools are socialized. Are Republicans deciding we need to end the public school system? Should all roads have tolls on them?

And how well do they perform? Some are great, most are fine, some are terrible.

You always see teachers crying about pay and school funding.

CO actually tried to remove unions from districts and raise pay, it caused a ***** storm and of course those in favor of the bill were labeled nazis.

I believe the govt at different levels should provide the basics.

[FKD19124]

so whats your point? we socialize every segment of society?

Originally Posted by Seacove

Our schools are socialized. Are Republicans deciding we need to end the public school system? Should all roads have tolls on them?

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Our schools are socialized. Are Republicans deciding we need to end the public school system? Should all roads have tolls on them?

Please come back with a better argument. Schools and roads long exited before we "socialized" them.

Nobody has any obligation to educate your children. If someone wants to pay for your children's education, they are free to donate voluntarily.

To force other people to pay for your children is called slavery.