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As a sovereign nation, they print their own currency, just like the US. Look at what happens when a country has to keep printing more and more money to pay its bills.
We often tout our country as innovation-driven. However, it is sad that we cannot come up with a solution that provides affordable quality care to all of our citizens. One of the primary goals of a society is to take care of those who are the most vulnerable and unable to care for themselves. We have done a poor job helping many of the disabled, military veterans suffering from PTSD and other traumatic conditions, as well as the millions of people suffering with mental illnesses. Recent studies have indicated that as many as 1 in 59 children have autism yet we have reduced the number of support programs necessary for them to reach their full potential and be successful and independent citizens.
I am ashamed that the politics of both the left and right have trumped common sense and the definition of society. The rhetoric that is spewed in defense of one side or the other often reminds me of a Wild West showdown with $ as the weapon of choice. I no longer can tolerate watching the news because many of our elected officials have become sideshow acts whose extreme positions leave the vast majority of people living in reality with no solutions to very real problems like healthcare.
We often tout our country as innovation-driven. However, it is sad that we cannot come up with a solution that provides affordable quality care to all of our citizens. One of the primary goals of a society is to take care of those who are the most vulnerable and unable to care for themselves. We have done a poor job helping many of the disabled, military veterans suffering from PTSD and other traumatic conditions, as well as the millions of people suffering with mental illnesses. Recent studies have indicated that as many as 1 in 59 children have autism yet we have reduced the number of support programs necessary for them to reach their full potential and be successful and independent citizens.
I am ashamed that the politics of both the left and right have trumped common sense and the definition of society. The rhetoric that is spewed in defense of one side or the other often reminds me of a Wild West showdown with $ as the weapon of choice. I no longer can tolerate watching the news because many of our elected officials have become sideshow acts whose extreme positions leave the vast majority of people living in reality with no solutions to very real problems like healthcare.
No one is stopping YOU or anyone else from stepping up to voluntarily pay for them, so why doesn't that happen?
As I stated, the UK's smoking rate is lower than Switzerland's. I brought up the UK obesity rate because it's rather high, both for Europe and in general.
The US is also trying to reduce obesity, hasn't hit on the "holy grail" yet although we've done some of the same things your country has. We also have our anti-smoking campaigns.
The point is, some posters, including one on here, have this rose-colored glasses idea that "in Europe" everything is better health-wise, that people don't do stupid things like smoke, drink especially while pregnant, etc. They also think if we just lived like Europeans, we could afford some kind of first-class single payer health care system and actually spend less on health care than we do now.
I am in favor of a UHC because it's the right thing to do. I have no illusions that it will save money, or tons of money anyway.
More than 41,000 people have been infected in the first six months of 2018, leading to 37 deaths. . . Last year there were 23,927 cases and the year before 5,273. . . In England, there have been 807 cases so far this year. The WHO is calling on European countries to take action."
There is no endemic measles anywhere in the western hemisphere. All measles is brought in from abroad, usually by US unvaccinated travelers. There have been about 107 cases so far this year. https://www.masslive.com/news/index....hool_year.html "Some 107 people from 21 states were reported to have measles between Jan. 1 and July 14, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
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Why are you bringing up Venezuela? A country run by a former Bus driver? Who is starving his own citizens?
If there was any democratic thing left in Venezuela, he would be voted out.. Si..
Venezuela failed due to governmental malfeasance. Certainly the far left socialistic move to nationalize their oil was ill advised to say the least. When oil prices were high, this single entity provided so much money as to keep the entire country flush. So flush that they stopped producing much of their own stuff. Then the oil prices dropped like a rock, leaving the country desperate. Their own money hyperinflated since there was not a reliable gov't/rule of law and meager national productivity to back their currency.
Creating new moneys for our HC will have to happen. And no doubt this will create at least some HC related inflation. But not hyperinflation. We will not be nationalizing our oil or other major industry barring a world war, and our national productivity will rise as people stay more healthy, working and employed. More HC services will add to our national productivity by itself, with more workers and more local transactions and commerce.
Caring for our people in a sensible and productive way is not going to hyperinflate the USD.
As I stated, the UK's smoking rate is lower than Switzerland's. I brought up the UK obesity rate because it's rather high, both for Europe and in general.
The US is also trying to reduce obesity, hasn't hit on the "holy grail" yet although we've done some of the same things your country has. We also have our anti-smoking campaigns.
The point is, some posters, including one on here, have this rose-colored glasses idea that "in Europe" everything is better health-wise, that people don't do stupid things like smoke, drink especially while pregnant, etc. They also think if we just lived like Europeans, we could afford some kind of first-class single payer health care system and actually spend less on health care than we do now.
I agree, however in terms of medicare for all you should really e looking at Australia which had medicare for all, and indeed Germany which has a micture of private and public rather than the UK which has a much more state driven healthcare scheme as well as a much smaller private healthcare system.
The British will accept this much more readily than Americans mainly due to our history, indeed we have much more of a society spirit due to having to survice against the odds as a small island race over the centuries, and having to endure bombing and rationing.
The British will even form an orderly queue and organide themselves as group, that is how good they are at working together. Indeed always stay on the correct side of the tube esculator and never hump at queue in Britain.
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt
I am in favor of a UHC because it's the right thing to do. I have no illusions that it will save money, or tons of money anyway.
More than 41,000 people have been infected in the first six months of 2018, leading to 37 deaths. . . Last year there were 23,927 cases and the year before 5,273. . . In England, there have been 807 cases so far this year. The WHO is calling on European countries to take action."
There is no endemic measles anywhere in the western hemisphere. All measles is brought in from abroad, usually by US unvaccinated travelers. There have been about 107 cases so far this year. https://www.masslive.com/news/index....hool_year.html "Some 107 people from 21 states were reported to have measles between Jan. 1 and July 14, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."
Britain has had measles outbreaks, and vaccines are encouraged but not compulsory.
The NHS recommends you get your child vaccinated and it is free, and there are vaccinations at family doctors Surgeries in schools, the only way you won't get vaccinated is if the parents forbid it, and this is not the problem of the heathcare system whether public or private, it is down to free choice.
I would say though that the NHS and indeed Ambulance crews are fantastic in the UK, and are very much a public service who aren't asfter money and are there vto serve very much like the police and fire service and they are respected in a similar way.
Venezuela failed due to governmental malfeasance. Certainly the far left socialistic move to nationalize their oil was ill advised to say the least. When oil prices were high, this single entity provided so much money as to keep the entire country flush. So flush that they stopped producing much of their own stuff. Then the oil prices dropped like a rock, leaving the country desperate. Their own money hyperinflated since there was not a reliable gov't/rule of law and meager national productivity to back their currency.
Creating new moneys for our HC will have to happen. And no doubt this will create at least some HC related inflation. But not hyperinflation.
But not hyperinflation? Based on what? Any time a country has to print trillions/year in new money to pay its bills, it creates hyperinflation.
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