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Old 08-19-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
If America was more like Germany, then the average size of a house would be slashed in half.

I suppose that is an improvement in the quality of life for some people.
So would paychecks. All hail the the free stuff!

 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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The things you wish we had in America are great things to vote for. You can help shape this country, which is a great thing. While Germany does have a few things you like, there would be a few you don't. The grass is always greener. What I try to do when I'm feeling bummed about America, and who doesn't from time to time, is to search for what I do like about it.

When my friend from Germany came down for a visit and stayed with me they remarked on how they love our options when owning a business here. They wished they had the ease of entrepreneurship in Germany.

They stay in Germany for the healthcare and free college education which I admired.

I think it's great to admire other countries and their services, but if you are unable to move there then it can get depressing to obsess about it. I find appreciating what America has instead helped me feel better about our country. You can also vote toward policies you like, and candidates that have similar views of what they want for America.

We are more like the EU than Germany, this is true. Our mass size makes a lot of those programs difficult. Some states have similar social programs so maybe making that move would be easier. Good luck!
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Nope, Medicare is for people over 65. SSI is a program mostly for people who are born disabled and they get $700 a month to survive on, which is just brutal.

I meant Medicaid. And I know for a fact that there are low income apartments for disabled and elderly people in Texas because my mom lived in one. Not everyone was low income but rents were extremely low for many people living there and it was pretty easy to get the subsidy. And you can get SNAP benefits.


To say Texas leaves disabled people twisting in the wind is incorrect.
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Germany
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20 days is a lot of vacation? lmao.

24 working days (defined as all calendar days that are not Sundays or public holidays). Therefore, a worker with a 5-day workweek has the right to 20 days off.[13] However, it is quite customary that companies concede other 10 days of paid leave, bringing the average to 30 days off.[66] There is one national public holiday (German Unity Day). States regulate the remaining paid public holidays which vary between 9 and 13 in total, some of them being held nationwide.[52][67] Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg provide the most.[68] ]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ave_by_country
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
If America was more like Germany, then the average size of a house would be slashed in half.

I suppose that is an improvement in the quality of life for some people.
This has to do with population density though. If you live in the boonies with no public transit, chances are, you have a larger home than people in Manhattan.
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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I meant Medicaid.
If you earn more than $300 a month in Texas, you dont get any health care from Medicaid. Doesnt matter if you have children or not.
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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The things you wish we had in America are great things to vote for. You can help shape this country, which is a great thing. While Germany does have a few things you like, there would be a few you don't. The grass is always greener. What I try to do when I'm feeling bummed about America, and who doesn't from time to time, is to search for what I do like about it.

When my friend from Germany came down for a visit and stayed with me they remarked on how they love our options when owning a business here. They wished they had the ease of entrepreneurship in Germany.

They stay in Germany for the healthcare and free college education which I admired.

I think it's great to admire other countries and their services, but if you are unable to move there then it can get depressing to obsess about it. I find appreciating what America has instead helped me feel better about our country. You can also vote toward policies you like, and candidates that have similar views of what they want for America.

We are more like the EU than Germany, this is true. Our mass size makes a lot of those programs difficult. Some states have similar social programs so maybe making that move would be easier. Good luck!
There is nothing in our size that makes programs difficult though. Germany is much larger than tiny countries. They have the same programs. We have Medicare. We have Social security. There is no problem. Size is no problem. The main task we have at hand is to rebuild the labor union movement so we can get back to were we were in the 1930s-1970s period and progress as a nation for all.
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Its really quite simple. If Americans get a taste of social democracy, like Medicare, public education and Social Security, its incredibly difficult to get rid of it. Its just too popular!
That's why all those Americans who have lived in those countries come back to America right? Because it's so much better somewhere else. Makes perfect liberal sense.

"social democracy" is BS, just another empty, meaningless made up term by the left so the ignorant who vote for them don't know Venezuela style socialism is your real goal.
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Anecdotes mean nothing. In Texas, if you earn more than $300 a month, you dont get any health care and are completely dependent on savings if you get sick or disabled. The cost of a decent life as a disabled will run you at $80-$100 000 a year...
So stats don't matter and real life examples don't matter to you....you're sticking to your narrative in exclusion to the facts....
 
Old 08-19-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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That's why all those Americans who have lived in those countries come back to America right? Because it's so much better somewhere else. Makes perfect liberal sense.

"social democracy" is BS, just another empty, meaningless made up term by the left so the ignorant who vote for them don't know Venezuela style socialism is your real goal.
Like bacon, the term "democracy" makes everything taste better.
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