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You've been wrong. More than that. Still waiting on that workable model in which insured Americans can get the same level of health care by paying 50% less.
Show us how employers pay 0% in health care costs of wages and only 8.5% in employer payroll taxes, lol. You're wrong, wrong, wrong again and again because you dont understand what you read. Its like when you claimed New Zealand didnt have the diabetics that US have so thats why they could have single payer. When you were told they had the same share of diabetics, you just run away.
Single payer is by far the most cost effective way to provide health care to everyone and when every nation in the world can do it, so can we. Its merely a question of will.
LOL, the military industrial complex, big pharma and Wall Street are progressive....Its so absurd. I am not a democrat. I dont support Wall Street democrats. They are obviously not progressive. Neither are the GOP puppets of Wall Street, big oil, insurance corporations and big pharma. They obey the wishes of their big donors. They dont listen to you. Why should they if you just hand them your vote when they are clearly corrupt.
Show us how employers pay 0% in health care costs of wages and only 8.5% in employer payroll taxes, lol.
Many employers do not provide health insurance, and many also don't pay the entire premium and cost-share that expense with their employees. You know that. You're just rambling now and evading the question...
Where's that workable model in which insured Americans can get the same level of health care by paying 50% less.
Show us how employers on average pay 0% of wages in health care costs and only pay 8.5% in payroll taxes. This is going to be fun. Your question has been answered countless times and you answer by bringing up Cigna and Pfizer funded Urban Institute that want to please their donors. No point in discussing with a robot.
LOL, the military industrial complex, big pharma and Wall Street are progressive....Its so absurd. I am not a democrat. I dont support Wall Street democrats. They are obviously not progressive. Neither are the GOP puppets of Wall Street, big oil, insurance corporations and big pharma. They obey the wishes of their big donors. They dont listen to you. Why should they if you just hand them your vote when they are clearly corrupt.
Yes, most corporations, banks, investment banks etc are Democrat, and Progressive. Also Tech, and Media are Democrat, and Progressive, and the Democrats still can't win with their FREE STUFF FOR EVERYONE MANTRA. It is NOT FREE. Someone always pays. Healthcare, and college are not a right! Work, and pay. That is the way to pay for stuff, and live life.
The Euro-Socialist model is failing, and will crush its occupant/subjects. We created America to be different, and offer the most success based on MERIT.
Show us a workable model in which insured Americans can get the same level of health care by paying 50% less.
I just want my 80s 90s insurance back. That was REAL insurance. ALL was paid in office visits and procedures. You just paid for TV in your room and phone to if you requested a private room ... npt sire they exist today either.
We did it then. Though so many still had no insurance. My Father lived his life with no insurance. But luckily when health issues later in life came .... he had the VA Federal hospital to go too. If not for the VA. He would have died much sooner by knowing him.... never sought the care he needed if he had to pay it all.
He did get the best of care and lived to 85. Now I have two plans to chose that my employer chose for me. no paid doctor visits as to why there is no co-pay. But luckily I will be covered for a hospital stay with procedures. In good health.... I just skip visits now. With my last company I had co-pays but a potion of Doctor visits covered with 80% covered hospital procedures after a yearly deductible. Never used a hospital stay.
Who would want to shop plans with exclusions like old cell phone plans? I WANT SOME REAL INSURANCE BACK. This hybrid thing we got is more bureaucracy with pre-approvals, exclusions. co-pays, deductibles and people having to fight for some coverage at times first turned down.
Canada's plan is imperfect but their life expectancy is even higher..... so clearly something works. We are suppose to be the richest Nation right?
Yes, most corporations, banks, investment banks etc are Democrat
Useless claim when they are fighting tooth and nail against progressive policies like Medicare-for-all, $15 minimum wage, a ban on for-profit prisons, getting big money out of politics and much stronger labor unions and labor rights.
Why do you vote for people who are funded by the same special interests that fund the democrats you hate? It makes no sense. They are playing you. Stop voting for corruption.
Corporations care about making money. What you probably don't like about them is that they hire minorities and women that doesn't make them progressive just socially liberal. If corporations were democratically controlled by the workers from the ground up that would be left wing but no large American corporation is.
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In other words you cant admit that you were dead wrong when you claim that employers pay 0% of health care costs on average and instead have to desperately lie and weasel yourself out of a laughable claim.
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That was REAL insurance. 
ALL was paid in office visits and procedures. You just paid for TV in your room and phone to if you requested a private room ... npt sire they exist today either. 