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Old 08-20-2018, 04:00 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
"400 South African farmers were attacked in 2017 and the South African government has begun the process of seizing land from white farmers."



Have you heard about this from any large US news media source (TV news media or newspapers (left or right)? Heard any celebrity express outrage over it?



If I wanted to open a discussion on the attacks and property seizures I would have put this post in the Africa forum. This post is about why the US TV and newspaper news media aren't covering the topic.


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Agriculture isn't a big part of the S. Africa economy (12% arable land, 1% permanent crops) - there it's mostly mineral extraction - which requires a fair amount of technical expertise. Mandela was careful while president to emphasize that SA needed everybody - labor, technical expertise; & that reprisals against the Europeans were not government policy. I'm sorry to see that SA government is moving to take over white farms - imitating Zimbabwe, where agriculture is really their big foreign exchange source - except that the takeovers in Zimbabwe seem to be wrecking the agricultural economy, & not developing it further. Without expertise or training, SA farms may also fall out of the national economy.

SA can always afford to import food - it's what they do now, really. But the move to seize farmland - when farmland is a minor part of the national economy - is a bad sign, if it indicates where the SA government is going to go in the future.

As for US media coverage - Democracy Now & a handful of other media outlets may cover it, but no, I wouldn't expect the MSM to cover it much. US MSM hardy cover global climate change, the militarization of our foreign policy, the decline of the State Dept., the drinkable water crisis that's building, the fossil fuel crisis that is building, the abandonment of the cities & the absurd buildup of the suburbs. We need to start building nuclear power plants now, & hurry - because national & worldwide peak oil is already behind us. But the MSM won't cover those stories - too upsetting to the big sponsors & the political system as it exists - as if the MSM media were merely a Walmart with a slightly different product line.

Once the stuff hits the fan, I'm sure we'll hear a lot of Told ya so's from the 500# gorillas in the MSM - assuming that there's a way for them to get out their message, that is. By that point, of course, we'll be too busy trying to feed ourselves to pay any attention. & so it goes …

I've also seen one or two references on other fora to the SA government preparing to seize white-owned farms in SA. A bad move on their part, I think.
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Old 08-20-2018, 04:12 PM
 
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The cameras are in the same place they were BEFORE the rabbit had the gun and none of you gave a damn.

Now you care, but a little too belatedly.
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Old 08-20-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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The "there's lots of murder anyway" argument doesn't fly.

We are talking about TARGETED RACE-RELATED CRIME and TARGETED race-based land-dispossession schemes, which meet the first couple of stages of the UN-recognized definition of genocide.


Yeah, there's a lot of murder involving blacks. But are the blacks being murdered and targeted BECAUSE they are black? That's the issue here. That's what makes it genocide vs. "just being murder."



BTW: Whites are entitled to care about this, just as blacks are entitled to care about Black Lives Matter issues.
Care all you want. Your care isn’t working.

Are you gonna go over there and help fix the problem?

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Why would ANY successful white farmer want to stay in SA?

Are they oblivious to what Zimbabwe turned into?
The Zimbabwe you love went by the name of Rhodesia. Problem is, Rhodesia was hell for the black people...you know, the actual natives of that land.

Yeah.
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Not surprising the media are ignoring South Africa. They've ignored Venezuela for years.
What’s it to us what happens in Venezuela? They have the right to determine the course of their own country.

So you may as well ignore it anyway.
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:07 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Part economics, part indifference, part leery of the source

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Because it doesn't fit the Left-wing media narrative. South Africa is now speaking like Communists dictators which of course, is not a side the media wants to show.

And of course, the Left-wing media doesn't believe that any people other than White people can be racists and act like dictators.
The US MSM have been closing down foreign bureaus for some time. CNN closed its Science department decades ago. Overseas bureaus are expensive, & the news from there is irregular, & doesn't always lead the day's coverage. As the US becomes fairly insular, there's less & less perceived value to foreign news reporting.

That's why the English-speaking foreign correspondents reporting in from Asia, Africa & Europe tend to be British or Australian stringers, rather than regular correspondents from the US. If we (the US TV/print public) demanded more & better coverage from foreign countries, we'd get it. But the people who are interested simply go & find better sources. There's no demand on our MSM to find & deliver better coverage of foreign news.

& speaking of that, the author/editor of Silent slaughter in the OP URL is apparently part of the Rupert Murdoch news organization in Australia. If that's the case, that may explain why the domestic US media is not giving it much play - although Fox TV & sister acts in UK should be playing up Murdoch programming.

It is a mystery.
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Bad thinking, no doubt

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Well, South Africa and protesting apartheid is imbedded in US pop-culture if you're a child of the 70's etc.

Several action movies used south Africans as their villain (like Lethal Wheapon #whatever for example).

That movie Lethal Weapon 2 was quite specific - it was aimed @ past atrocities & then-present drug running by Boers - who spoke Boer & apparently still went on about the inferiority of Blacks in South Africa. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_Weapon_2

"Plot

"Two years after the events of the first film, LAPD sergeants Martin Riggs and Roger Murtaugh are pursuing unidentified suspects transporting an illegal shipment of gold krugerrands. The Afrikaner apartheid government of South Africa subsequently orders Los Angeles consul-general Arjen Rudd (Joss Ackland) and security agent Pieter Vorstedt (Derrick O'Connor) to warn both detectives off the investigation; they are reassigned to protecting an obnoxious federal witness, Leo Getz (Joe Pesci), after an attack on Murtaugh's home."

(My emphasis - more @ the URL)

& so on.
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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didnt danny glover have property over there?
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I cant believe white people are mad. Hundreds of years of genocide and colonialism and yall have have the audacity to be mad. now maybe they know how minorities feel. Maybe you guys know how native Americans feel When they were killed off and there land was taken
Again, this is about why the US TV and newspaper media aren't covering it. It's news no matter how you feel about it.

Since I'm old, I remember when the news media like the Washington Post and NY Times, for example, and the broadcast news channels had staffed news bureaus in foreign countries. The reporters had their ears to the ground and knew the culture, the local news and the locals they could go to get reliable information. I really believe the decline of the news media began when they all pulled their bureaus out of those overseas countries. It seems to me they don't anticipate foreign news stories anymore and are behind the curve when it comes to reporting on them.
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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It’s too far away, no one cares.
The neo-cons on this board are only worried about trolling the left and posting threads about black people here.

That IS true.

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I don't really hear much on the news about Africa unless it's a story on poaching. I don't think race plays into it though as there are plenty of atrocities going on in Uganda, Nigeria and other countries that are ignored over here in addition to the South African farmers.

I was just thinking the same thing! I hear about poaching of endangered species but that is about it.

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The US MSM have been closing down foreign bureaus for some time. CNN closed its Science department decades ago. Overseas bureaus are expensive, & the news from there is irregular, & doesn't always lead the day's coverage. As the US becomes fairly insular, there's less & less perceived value to foreign news reporting.

That's why the English-speaking foreign correspondents reporting in from Asia, Africa & Europe tend to be British or Australian stringers, rather than regular correspondents from the US. If we (the US TV/print public) demanded more & better coverage from foreign countries, we'd get it. But the people who are interested simply go & find better sources. There's no demand on our MSM to find & deliver better coverage of foreign news.

& speaking of that, the author/editor of Silent slaughter in the OP URL is apparently part of the Rupert Murdoch news organization in Australia. If that's the case, that may explain why the domestic US media is not giving it much play - although Fox TV & sister acts in UK should be playing up Murdoch programming.

It is a mystery.
Very interesting. I did not know that.


But it's not a mystery. MSM and the 24 hour news channels don't focus on it because it doesn't bring RATINGS. Like you said, if we demanded more - we would get more.


Instead - it's all Trump tv all the time.


When they cover elections - policies are rarely discussed ~ it's all 'horserace' conversation. Like ESPN covering a big rivalry football game.


That's what we are.
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Old 08-20-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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News coverage from the continent of Africa in American media is non-existent. Currently the government of Salva Kiir in South Sudan is killing ethnic Nuer. In the Central African Republic, Muslim and Christian militias are committing genocide-level acts of ethnic-cleansing. The governments of Burundi and the D.R. of C. are murdering any political opposition and their supporters. Both countries now fully engulfed in civil wars.

Having completely overlooked the absence of African coverage thus far, the fringe-right publications are suddenly now taking notice that violence in an African country isn't being covered by the media? Considering the obvious reason for their sudden interest, maybe they're the ones with the racial bias.
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Old 08-20-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Zimbabwe redux. Ready for a repeat performance?

“Mugabe's often violent seizure of Zimbabwe's white-owned farms was his signature action — and devastated the country's agricultural production, transforming what had been known as Africa's breadbasket into a land of barren fields and hungry people. Mugabe cloaked the land grabs in ringing rhetoric, shaking his fist and shouting that Africa's land should be held by Africans. It didn't matter that the farms, which had been pledged to poor blacks, instead went to his generals, Cabinet ministers, cronies and his wife — or that many of the fields lay fallow years later. Even now Mugabe is widely revered by many Africans as the continent's most radical de-colonizer.”

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/11/2...babwes-economy
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