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Old 08-20-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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Denmark is a Social Democracy (not same as Democratic Socialist), which means free market economy with strong social welfare system. Venezuela is not a Social Democracy, but you can say they are socialist, because in a socialist system the government owns and operates the means of production.

Many people, even Bernie Sanders, are confused between the terms Social Democracy and Democratic Socialist. Sanders calls his view Democratic Socialist, but he promotes Social Democracy. I can only assume he does not know the difference.

That should make him electable under "Most Qualified" status.
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Old 08-20-2018, 04:30 PM
 
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Denmark is a Social Democracy (not same as Democratic Socialist), which means free market economy with strong social welfare system. Venezuela is not a Social Democracy, but you can say they are socialist, because in a socialist system the government owns and operates the means of production.

Many people, even Bernie Sanders, are confused between the terms Social Democracy and Democratic Socialist. Sanders calls his view Democratic Socialist, but he promotes Social Democracy. I can only assume he does not know the difference.
In reality, social democratic parties will call themselves socialist all the time. Like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France))

The Socialist Party (French: Parti socialiste [paʁti sɔsjalist], PS) is a social-democratic[7] political party in France, and the largest party of the French centre-left. The PS used to be one of the two major political parties in the French Fifth Republic, along with the Republicans.

In Belgium:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parti_...iste_(Belgium))
The Socialist Party (French: Parti socialiste, PS) is a social-democratic[2][3][4][5][6] French-speaking political party in Belgium. As of the 2014 elections, it is the second largest party in the Belgian Chamber of Representatives and the largest Francophone party.

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Old 08-20-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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Fox News Took a Shot at Denmark - Denmark Fired Back
https://youtu.be/OSd8ellS52M
Quite happy with my countrymen not letting that silly person speak unopposed.
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:41 PM
 
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Venezuela has been a full "Democrat Socialist" nation for a couple of decades. And thought they sit on top of one of the biggest oil reserves on the planet, their currency is now completely worthless. Socialists have ruined the economy.

They had to devalue the currency 95% so it becomes physically possible to carry enough cash to buy a single chicken.

Venezuela Slashes 5 Zeros From Currency In "One Of Greatest Devaluations Ever

Coming soon to a Democrat near you.
You tried. There was no logic or a point, but an attempt was made.
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Denmark is a Social Democracy (not same as Democratic Socialist), which means free market economy with strong social welfare system. Venezuela is not a Social Democracy, but you can say they are socialist, because in a socialist system the government owns and operates the means of production.

Many people, even Bernie Sanders, are confused between the terms Social Democracy and Democratic Socialist. Sanders calls his view Democratic Socialist, but he promotes Social Democracy. I can only assume he does not know the difference.
The word socialism has grown completely meaningless in the US. Even if one were to split hairs over Democratic Socialist vs. Social Democracy, every time someone suggests perhaps carrying over a Social Democracy policy, the Right immediately let loose with porcine squeals of "OMG! Socialism! The Reds are marching in the streets with hammers and sickles!"
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:48 PM
 
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Social security and Medicare is socialism. Why don’t republicans grow a pair and cleanse the USA of this socialist plot?
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Old 08-21-2018, 02:06 AM
 
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As the US wakes up and realizes the benefits of Social Democracy Northern Europe has benefitted from, the Right jumps on the ignorance of low qualified voters and tries to compare it to a failed state, which by all means are fast becoming a Dictatorship.
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:54 AM
 
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As the US wakes up and realizes the benefits of Social Democracy Northern Europe has benefitted from, the Right jumps on the ignorance of low qualified voters and tries to compare it to a failed state, which by all means are fast becoming a Dictatorship.
You gotta pay to play. Look at the national tax burdens of a typical worker in the chart on page 9:

http://www.institutmolinari.org/IMG/...en-eu-2017.pdf

Typical American workers won't accept being taxed at those rates, so we can't have Northern Europe's government-provided social programs.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:21 AM
 
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Me and my wife both earned more then twice the average salary.. and we both where taxed less then 40%.. 37% I belive.


4-6 weeks of Holiday.
9-12 months of maternity leave.
College and University - mostly "free" or costs far less ( which means tax payer funded )
"Free Healthcare" - ( Where "Free" means tax payer funded )

Whats the average US tax burden.. by State?
What other costs do they have, not baked into the EU tax system?
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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venezuela has been a full "democrat socialist" nation for a couple of decades. And thought they sit on top of one of the biggest oil reserves on the planet, their currency is now completely worthless. Socialists have ruined the economy.

They had to devalue the currency 95% so it becomes physically possible to carry enough cash to buy a single chicken.

venezuela slashes 5 zeros from currency in "one of greatest devaluations ever

coming soon to a democrat near you.
lol case closed.
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