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Old 08-21-2018, 11:51 PM
 
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We are at the end of a short 10,000 year interglacial period and are suppose to be heading into a 90,000 cooling period. It’s not going to happen though because we pumped so much CO2 into the atmosphere, that we are causing massive warming within a SHORT time period. Natural climate change happens over LONG periods of time (this is what deniers don’t get). We can adapt to long term change, we can’t adapt to short term change.
Solar activity was at an unprecedented high in the latter half of the 20th century.
This long period of increased solar output has never been observed before, we have no idea what its residual effect is. The methane release from polar melting alone would be massive.
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:56 PM
 
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Solar activity was at an unprecedented high in the latter half of the 20th century.
This long period of increased solar output has never been observed before, we have no idea what its residual effect is. The methane release from polar melting alone would be massive.
We’re talking about 0.1% increase in solar ourput. ITS NOT THE SUN. It’s the TRILLIONS of tons of CO2 we have put into atmosphere warming our planet.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:01 AM
 
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Enough with the conspiracy theories and politics. Focus on the science and if you don’t like the current solutions, then come up with your own! Don’t like taxes? Then come up with free market solutions or anything.
Childish outbursts will not lend you credibility.
Where did I claim a conspiracy theory?
Leftists following their ideology do not need to conspire to do anything.
Are you denying that IPCC reports contain language like "carbon equity" and "climate justice"?
What do these terms mean besides global socialism?
I do not have the solution for this but there is nothing wrong with me pointing out the "solutions" that have so far been tried have resulted in not only an increase in total global greenhouse gas emissions, but an increase in the rate of their increase.
I can understand that having this revealed to you might make you angry.
People get pretty frustrated when they find their ideology is deeply flawed.
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:04 AM
 
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We’re talking about 0.1% increase in solar ourput. ITS NOT THE SUN. It’s the TRILLIONS of tons of CO2 we have put into atmosphere warming our planet.
How much of the warming to the earth every day is done by the sun?

100%.

How much is by man?

0%.

What was your point?
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:13 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA9f3UW9kCg
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:18 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB7xJ23E1t0
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Solar activity was at an unprecedented high in the latter half of the 20th century.
This long period of increased solar output has never been observed before, we have no idea what its residual effect is. The methane release from polar melting alone would be massive.
Yes, and solar radiance has been decreasing since the 80s while the temperature has been increasing....How do you explain that? https://www.skepticalscience.com/sol...al-warming.htm

It's time to face the facts....
The sun is the source of the heat, but it is the greenhouse affect that is warming the planet by not allowing all the heat to escape.....Dealing with the problem will not be cheap, but ignoring it will be far more expensive. I have been willingly paying a carbon tax for ten years, and it's no big deal financially.

https://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/glob...arming-impacts
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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How much of the warming to the earth every day is done by the sun?

100%.

How much is by man?

0%.

What was your point?
Why are you even debating this subject when this post make it clear that you have no understanding of climate science whatsoever?
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Old 08-22-2018, 12:33 AM
 
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Why are you even debating this subject when this post make it clear that you have no understanding of climate science whatsoever?
Dude he gets his facts from Fox news. Who do you get your facts from? Some scientist? Pfff! /s
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