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Old 08-22-2018, 10:52 AM
 
Location: FL
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This is what the Republicans are running on.

Have seen it mentioned on the news several times now. Vote for Republicans or the Democrats will impeach Trump.

Though why the House Democrats would try to impeach Trump is anybody's guess. It would die in the Senate as the Constitution requires a two thirds super majority to convict and evven the most optimistic do not imagine the Senate being two-thirds Democratic in January. So why bother?

Better to hold hearings and sponsor investigations until every Republican is exposed for their role in this criminal and corrupt endeavor.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Cohen knew the laws that he broke. He said what he was told to get a lighter sentence. He may say more as he is pushed to compose. Its not worth anything without proof and his word is proof of nothing.
Michael Cohen recorded all his phone conversations, and kept every memo, business card, receipt, and anything else he ever touched, and all of that was seized and is now in the hands of the FBI. Want to bet there isn't paper in the batch somewhere to corroborate his claims?
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Now that Trump has been named in federal court as a co-conspirator to commit campaign finance laws, should his supreme court pick be put on hold? That's one of the latest discussions that have come up this morning.
Yeah right, that isn't going to stop.

The Surpreme Court pick is THE reason a lot of Repubs sold their souls to dumb donny and continue to tolerate his disgusting, undignified, and now criminal behavior.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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b.s.

those are the facts. sorry you can't handle it.


* giuliani claims that trump paid back cohen over the course of more than a year, making it a campaign loan that would exceed individual limits.


* it was never reported on any campaign financial disclosure.


* cohen claims that trump authorized it.




which one of those points do you dispute?
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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Now that Trump has been named in federal court as a co-conspirator to commit campaign finance laws, should his supreme court pick be put on hold? That's one of the latest discussions that have come up this morning.

https://twitter.com/StopBigMoney/sta...75080607424513
Kavanaugh is not being rushed through. Accusations are made everyday and meaningless without being charged with a crime. If they had a crime to work with they wouldn't hold back.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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this will all be forgotten by next week. next.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Kavanaugh is not being rushed through. Accusations are made everyday and meaningless without being charged with a crime. If they had a crime to work with they wouldn't hold back.
Didn't Trump say we couldn't elect Hillary because she could be facing the prospect of indictment? Shouldn't the same standard apply to Trump?
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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those are the facts. sorry you can't handle it.

* giuliani claims that trump paid back cohen over the course of more than a year, making it a campaign loan that would exceed individual limits.

* it was never reported on any campaign financial disclosure.

* cohen claims that trump authorized it.

which one of those points do you dispute?
The payments were personal and not campaign expenses. The Trump campaign did not pay them and it would have been a campaign violation if the campaign had paid them, as these sorts of payments are personal expenses.

As a result of not being campaign expenses, there was not appropriate for Trump to report them on his campaign financial disclosure.

If Trump improperly failed to include anything on his campaign financial disclosures and failed to do so, the FEC is responsible for overseeing that and holding even currently sitting presidents accountable, as they did with Barack Obama in 2013, with regards to campaign violations during the 2008 race:

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/...tag=MSF0951a18
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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this will all be forgotten by next week. next.
Not by Trump and his crime family it won't.
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Old 08-22-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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Cohen made these payments to Stormy Daniels. That is true.

What is not true is the assertion that this is a violation of campaign laws. If it actually was, we would be seeing this presented to the Federal Election Commission, who has jurisdiction over these sorts of matters.

But that is not happening, because this is not a violation of any of their laws or regulations.
Please, read the transcripts.

How can you plead guilty to a crime that isn't a crime?
"...the government would prove (if there were a trial) that the defendant caused an illegal corporate contribution of $150,000 to be made in coordination with a candidate or campaign for federal office, and also that Mr. Cohen made an excessive contribution of $130,000 in coordination with the campaign or candidate for the purposes of influencing the election."

The FEC doesn't prosecute people. They make referrals to the Justice Department for prosecutions. This case was already at Justice, so no need for a referral.

Also, see why the Heritage Foundation thought John Edwards was guilty of a similar crime.
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